Miles & Mountains
Join Nick, a social worker and coach by day, as he unravels the inspiring stories of athletes and the public, uncovering the motivations behind their actions, from conquering mountains to participating in ultra-endurance races and competing in rodeos. Get ready for heartwarming tales of community support, acts of kindness, and the revelation that everyone has a deeper story to tell. Whether it's running, climbing, or participating in rodeos, these stories will inspire and uplift. #Running, #Climbing, #EverydayAthletes, #Rodeo
Miles & Mountains
Jessi and Roy: A Love Story on the Rodeo Circuit and Creative Pursuits
What happens when a rodeo queen and a rodeo clown team up in life and love? Jessi and Roy Jackson join us as they share the heartwarming and humorous tales of their journey through the rodeo scene, from their summer escapades to the song that perfectly encapsulates their relationship. Celebrate alongside us as we reflect on Roy's impressive growth in the rodeo arena and the mutual support that fuels their aspirations.
Listeners can expect an intimate look at Roy's passionate return to bullfighting and how Jessi’s unwavering support helps him push boundaries in his career. Through tales of FaceTime calls at rodeos, long drives for bullfighting practice, and Roy's foray into modeling for Jessi’s Rockin' J Designs, discover how their shared love for the sport strengthens their bond. Witness the blend of creativity and dedication that underscores the importance of partnership in achieving dreams, as they navigate both the rodeo and silversmithing worlds together.
Step behind the scenes at major rodeo events with us, as we recount the adrenaline, camaraderie, and resilience required to participate at an elite level. From managing the logistics of rodeo events to the stories of personal triumphs and future aspirations, this episode is filled with gratitude, humor, and a shared appreciation for the vibrant rodeo community. Don't miss the delightful anecdotes about legendary figures, budding talents, and the delightful surprise encounters that only the rodeo world can offer.
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Roy and Jesse with an I Jackson, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm doing well. Good to be back, man. It's been a while. It's been a while. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1:Yes, welcome, jesse. First time in a while, correct, first time on this podcast.
Speaker 3:First time on this podcast and it's been since 2018. I've done any sort of podcast, so I'm excited to get back into it.
Speaker 1:Jeez, okay. So what got you into this one? Why did you want to join Roy?
Speaker 3:That was Roy's idea, actually. I'll let him run with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just thought maybe have a little bit different perspective on the stories that we have and and and just kind of what we did in our travels and things like that and our experiences and and I took it. I mean we went everywhere together this summer. So to not include her in that, like I need to include her in this too, you know so.
Speaker 1:I'm glad I asked that question. Yeah, yeah, you guys are almost like rodeo. Uh, royalty man, you know, there's always, you know, the king and the queen right there.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I mean the rodeo clown and the rodeo queen. There's a song about it somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a song called rodeo queen by aaron watson, and roy had actually never heard it until our wedding day, yeah, and it's about a rodeo clown falling in love with the rodeo queen, which is kind of fitting here see, roy, man, we got to change that behavior.
Speaker 1:man, that behavior, okay, just that. That negative thinking and self-talk man, I don't want to hear that, okay. So welcome, jesse. First time in a while, first time on this one, roy. Last time you were here on the podcast it was, well, I put it out November 20th 2022. Yeah, episode 112. I put it out November 20th 2022. Episode 112. Can you believe it's been going on that long?
Speaker 2:It is wild. It felt like that was like yesterday and like so much has happened since then. Just a lot of cool things and oh man, it's been a ride, man, it's been so much fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I thank you for allowing me to be part of that journey. Man, you know be watching you on Instagram live when I can get to you. You know, there's no like seeing you live man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I checked out a few of your episodes this past week and it's like holy crap, this dude's got a lot going on. This is so cool yeah, so cool man. Yeah, you listen to the connor dean one I listen to connor and I listen to, uh, um, the gal, she had the, the middle name, the. That was really cool. Praise, bella, praise, praise. I thought that was neat. That was that was me. Her episodes.
Speaker 1:Killing it man. She approached me and I was all like Okay, and found out where she went To school. I was like well, if I've Got the boys on, I'm gonna get the girls On. And so she did a pitch and I was Like alright, and then you know, wiley, shout out To Wiley always you know, you know, uh, we talk about him and uh made him blush. But yeah, that guy is a good guy man, he's very professional, so shout him out, um but, since, uh, what was it?
Speaker 1:since I was, uh, put him on. You know, uh, I just had to, you know, put her on. And if they continue to come on, I'm still, I'll be TVCC's biggest fan whenever they allow me, so hopefully the coach comes on soon. Totally. Yeah, that's cool. So lots have gone on, lots have changed, and you've moved up. I'm going to say it. You've moved up and onward. Yeah, take a butt and take a naze dude. How does it feel?
Speaker 2:It feels awesome, man. This is like it didn't really sink in until, kind of after season was over, because like when you're in the middle of it, you don't really realize, kind of, where you're at sometimes and how big it is. And then, like you get done after the year's over and it's like whoa, we just did all that. Like that is just like I was at the sisters, like I was at sisters rodeo working in, I was at, you know, working, high desert stampede, working can be these these awesome great rodeos, to be a part of. Gosh, it's been a dream come true, man. I mean totally, totally never and never thought I would make it this big. It's just it's, I don't have words for it. It's wild, I know, I know, and it's, it's big, it's just it's I don't have words for it.
Speaker 1:Why is that, roy? I know, I know, and it's cool, it's good, it's okay. Why is it? Why is it shocking? I mean, you're quite the athlete. You're quite the bull fighter, you know your stuff.
Speaker 2:I guess not so much shocking, but just more. I just feel more blessed than anything to be. I mean, there's, there's just a small percentage of the world that that rodeos in general and then a smaller percentage of that that get to go and do it at an elite level, um, and and to be around these guys and to be a part of, you know, some of the biggest rodeos in the Northwest, um, I just feel humbled and and totally blessed to be a part, just just to have a part in it. So, and that's my, that's my whole thing there.
Speaker 1:What about you, Jesse?
Speaker 3:It's just been so fun. So Roy and I, the first time we ever chatted, we actually FaceTimed while he was at a rodeo. He was in his hotel room just hanging out and we chatted for probably an hour or so and that was when he was first coming back into bullfighting.
Speaker 2:That was literally the first night I came back to fight bulls, so we we talked on FaceTime the first night, the first night I came back fighting bulls, so that was pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then after that you know we met. Then COVID happened. Everything was shut down, which actually means for some really interesting dates for us. I know he's told you about this one practice pen. He would go down in Reno to and fight bulls for someone and just hang out and still just get back into it. And those were our dates.
Speaker 3:I worked EMS at that time and so I would have a nice string of days off and then I would drive down to his house in Southern Oregon. I lived near Portland and so I'd drive down and we would drive six hours to Reno and then six hours back. So you really learn how to get to know someone when you're in a car with them for that long. So to go from that and then watch him go to CCT and just become I'm going to say it like one of their favorite bullfighters and then to go all the way to the professional level, it has just been so fun to see and it took some time to make that jump um for him but it was just kind of all in god's timing um 100. So to get him to, to see that and just keep going up and up and get to do it with him, I'm completely blessed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's elite level man. You know that right, you understand that when there's professional in the name. Yeah, but still it's not some guy off the street, you know, on the corner saying, hey, let's go fight bulls, let's go do protection, you know, I mean there was some there was some work involved in this, to to get there and then there.
Speaker 2:I mean, there were some times that I was very, very blessed to be where I was, like in the, in the right place at the right time, um, and you know. So, just just all kinds of stuff it was, it was just cool.
Speaker 3:So I remember when we were first married, he we were kind of talking and he kind of thought you know, oh, I'm married now I'm probably not gonna rodeo as hard. And he thankfully told me that because I was like what are you talking about? I love rodeo.
Speaker 2:You love rodeo.
Speaker 3:Why are you going to stop here? Let's keep going up and up if you want to. I'm here for it.
Speaker 2:That was cool, that was cool.
Speaker 1:So PRCA and PBR and then CCT, always CCT, right, are you going to continue with CCT?
Speaker 2:I'm doing a few more shows with the CCT. I actually got their finals, uh this last January and bought that. That was my fourth one, so that was cool to to go back to that, but more focusing on pro rodeos and trying to build it, build it up there, um uh, my goal uh for right now make columbia river circuit finals. That'd be a a good, attainable goal for now. And then, you know, as far as making nfr one day, that's still a few years down the line. It's just a time thing and you just got to put in the work and keep grinding and just see where God takes me with it.
Speaker 1:And not only do you have the PRCA, pbr, but you're also Jesse's model man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's so good at it, right Pretty.
Speaker 1:Oh you're turning red, bro. Oh, I turn red. Yeah, You're, you know, husband and model. You're definitely a natural at it, but you model for our business, Rockin' J Designs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do. I haven't got paid for that yet.
Speaker 3:Totally willingly right, willingly, willingly.
Speaker 2:We would do these shoots and it's like 30 degrees out and I'm in a t-shirt. It's like smile, look happy in a t-shirt. Like smile, look happy. All right, okay yeah, hurry up.
Speaker 3:It was cold enough. His, your smile just got frozen.
Speaker 2:It was fine yeah, it stayed right there.
Speaker 3:Right, smile after that, oh yes, oh, I run rock and jay designs, which is a silversmithing and apparel company, and uh, it's funny, I actually learned silversmithing and apparel company and it's funny, I actually learned silversmithing from Roy's dad because he learned it from Roy when he went to college for it and he also rodeoed there as well. But yeah, so on the apparel, I don't make him model the jewelry, that seems a little mean, but he's really the male shirts mean, but he's really the male shirts. Yeah, modeling shirts and sweatshirts and hats, yeah hey, you're a good sport, roy.
Speaker 1:yeah, yep, I, I had to put the model on there, man, I mean dude. No, that's great, add it to the resume. Yeah, so silversmithing, it's not easy, correct?
Speaker 3:It's not very easy. No, I have a lot of calluses on my hands to prove that, but I absolutely love it. Why does one person get into it? I just actually asked Roy's dad once. It was actually New Year's Eve and we were at his house and he had a little silversmithing shop and I just said you know what? I'm just curious, what does it take to build a piece? So he went down with me to his silver shop. We picked out a stone and I built my first piece that day, and after that I was just kind of hooked.
Speaker 3:I was interested in leaving the job I had at the time with a Western fashion company, and so it was just kind of something to supplement there. And then I ended up leaving sooner than I planned, right after we bought our house Things just there. It was just the right time for me to leave and so I just jumped headfirst into it and people started buying things, thankfully, and it's just gone and gone from there. So I do that. And then I also do real estate as well. So it's nice to. I'm a very analytical person, I like numbers and um, so real estate satisfies that. And then silversmithing I get to, uh, take care of my creative side you're selling because you got a darn good model.
Speaker 3:Exactly yes. Roy's like stop, Stop it's been this red in a while.
Speaker 1:I love it, Roy. Hey, you wanted to have a podcast with the wife.
Speaker 2:It was my idea. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That was my idea, I know. I know. I know that's awesome. I do watch, you know, rockin' J Design on Instagram and I like the fact that you share some of your silversmithing, you know, with us with the videos and everything else, and it does not look easy at all, so I had to ask you know.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, it's dirty work and and warm requires a a couple different torches, so you got to be a little tough to do it.
Speaker 1:be willing to get dirty okay, what's the easiest part of what you do?
Speaker 3:oh my, my gosh Taking pictures after.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, honestly, I love shopping for stones. That's my favorite part, um, because I can. I'm not one to draw out pieces where it's interesting. When Roy Silversmith, he draws everything out, everything. I am not that way. I look at the stones and just can see it in my head how I want to do it, um, and what I want to make with them, and so that's my favorite part.
Speaker 2:So I end up shopping for stones a lot very, very artistic in that way yeah finding and going to like stone shows and just finding stones and then have an idea already in your head and then creating it. It's pretty amazing really.
Speaker 1:Average price of a stone.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, it varies.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Because I mean, there's so many different stones out there. There's some really common ones that are easier to get yeah, like obsidian onyx really common ones that are easier to get. Obsidian onyx, things like that are super easy. And then there's really hard to get types of white buffalo. Well, white buffalo's all the same, it's just there's less of it. Now there's some turquoise that's really really hard to get a hold of, so it's pretty pricey. Um, yeah, it gets really interesting trying to average turquoise right now.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I'm pretty good at finding deals, um, but I would say $25 for like my cause, I'm good at like. I said $25 for like my cause, I'm good at, like I said, I'm good at finding deals. I would say $25 a stone, but then there's some that get way, way bigger and then there's some that are cheaper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it depends on the size, for sure.
Speaker 3:I like big stones, so I'm looking at bigger ones, of course you do. I do.
Speaker 1:What lady doesn't I mean you got to really question.
Speaker 3:There are ladies out there that love the dainty jewelry. I'm not one of them.
Speaker 1:Go big or go home, correct.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the worst thing about the business? The?
Speaker 3:worst part is definitely the grinding portion. So you've made your bezel. It's all all the pretty stuff around your bezel setting is done, it's soldered on. Now you got to shape it and that's the worst part, because, um, it's just really, really messy. I wear an N95 respirator, I wear safety goggles, I wear a canvas apron. She looks like she's in a lab, I look like I'm in a lab, but it's just if I don't do all of the things. Oh, and headphones, because it's so loud I started noticing I would have ringing in my ears if I was using my rotary tool and didn't have headphones on. So I wear all the things and when you're having to wear that for, you know, an hour, it gets pretty uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So yeah, okay, so that's, that's the worst part yep and yep, in my opinion for sure okay question why do ladies love turquoise? Why turquoise? It's pretty. It's pretty but it's expensive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you know, it's not as expensive as diamonds. Whoever said diamonds are a girl's best friend has not met turquoise turquoise.
Speaker 1:So it depends on what you know if the lady's into the western uh lifestyle that's true.
Speaker 3:That is true, although it is really fun when I because I do occasionally have booth set shows um, I'll do a couple rodeosos, I've done the cricket river races and there's people that you would not expect to buy jewelry, buying jewelry and it's really, really fun, cause, especially, they'll ask a lot of questions about the stones and the process and it's an opportunity to educate and that's what I that's my favorite part about doing the booth.
Speaker 1:Okay, how many times a year do you have your booth?
Speaker 3:I don't do it very often and there's a reason for that and it's actually because I'm extremely lucky. So, because Roy travels so much to rodeos, um, I have developed a reputation for bringing all the jewelry with me to rodeos. Um, I have developed a reputation for bringing all of the jewelry with me to rodeos. I have a fancy little box for it. I look like a Mary Kay lady with my little box of jewelry.
Speaker 2:She just got this case and she just straight pimped this jewelry around. It's awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wear it. And then people ask about it or people have heard that I carry it with me or have seen my website, seen Instagram and Facebook. Somehow they know about it. And then they come to the trailer and shop.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I've done that. During we were at Eugene Pro Rodeoo, there was two timers that came by. They left to go get money and then came back with the clown's wife and they they all bought jewelry. And then I have, um actually sold pieces off of my body, which is so it's so cool.
Speaker 3:I did that at um circuit finals. We were at the after party and a guy came up with his buddy and was like hey, my girlfriend really likes your necklace. Who made it? Um, you know where'd you get it? And he was like well, I actually made it. And um, I sell them. Yeah, I make them and sell them. This one's available. And he's like how much? So I always carry little boxes, cause I like to have the nice packaging and the polishing cloth and everything for people. And so he Venmo'd me, I packaged it up and he went on his way and surprised his girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Saleswoman One heck of a saleswoman. Oh my gosh, is it difficult to get rid of the jewelry that you wear?
Speaker 3:It can be. I definitely get attached to some pieces. There's only one piece, though, that I've actually made and will not sell. Well, I guess I should say two. One is the very first piece I made with Roy's dad, and then just one of the first pieces I made that I just really really loved how it came out and it was all by myself, so I was just really excited about it. So I've kept that one. But when I make some really big pieces that I know took a lot of time and effort and I was very proud of the design, it is a little harder to see those go. But when people love it, that helps.
Speaker 2:It is a little harder to see those go, but when people love it that helps. Okay, there was one. There was one that she it was like that cactus set that she made and I was like, man, you should keep that one, that one's pretty unique. And she sold it. I was. I was actually kind of bummed out. She sold it, but that's part of it.
Speaker 1:Model turquoise yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I like. I like the jewelry too, because that's what I learned in school. So it's pretty neat and to see how far she's taken it. I used to do it and try to sell it and try to make it work, but she's taken it so much further and it's just very cool to watch.
Speaker 1:She got the lady touch. Oh yeah, that's something we don't have yeah, yeah but turquoise. Why is it so difficult to resist?
Speaker 3:I think it's the color. I don't know what it is, but it's something that you can just see from so far away. And you know, we're like bugs, we're just attracted to it.
Speaker 1:That's a good way to put it. Yeah, Royce.
Speaker 3:He knows it's true. That's why he laughs.
Speaker 2:At least I don't have to buy it anymore, she just makes her own.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure you're buying it, don't?
Speaker 3:keep anything for myself anymore, but I wear. I wear it so much. I literally just, you know, get dressed and then go to my little Mary Kay box and decide what I want to wear that day.
Speaker 1:So given any rodeo, especially the NFR, how decked out are you on your stones in a given day, especially a well, I, you know, I'm every piece of jewelry I'm wearing I've made at that point.
Speaker 3:That's crazy. This this year was actually really hard, though, because I was in a leg brace, a ankle to thigh, knee brace, and so my outfits were not near as exciting for nfr. You know how the nfr can get ladies go all out for it all time of the day, and I fully intended on partaking in all of that. Didn't quite happen, but I always had all of the jewels on. So I actually had some good luck in the fact that I was so busy building other people's jewelry for NFR that I didn't get a lot of time to make something for myself like specific.
Speaker 3:But my favorite piece that I wore I actually made the only way we call it is like a thigh necklace. So I had a. I had a dress with a slit on the thigh and then I had a I think it was nine stones altogether in a piece that moved with my leg that I could wear on my thigh to show through the slit, and then it could also be worn as a necklace. So that was definitely my favorite piece that I brought to NFR. Um, just cause that was all my own design, I was very, very proud of it.
Speaker 2:Then you made a. You made a second piece too.
Speaker 3:I did make a second one for um an NFR photographer that she wore.
Speaker 2:She shot, she shot at the NFR. It was pretty cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And so she actually wore it on stage during the um back number ceremony.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, big time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Rocking Jade Designs making it big time. Well, congrats. I'm proud of you and one of these days I was going to ask you what's the ultimate goal.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I honestly I've been so busy, taking it one day at a time, that I haven't made super big goals. Um, I know everyone wants a booth at the NFR, but I've been so lucky just at the fact that I can sell it off of me. The thing is that it's 10 days, so making one person making that much jewelry. Anyone who goes to NFR has multiple people making for them or they're buying, you know, wholesale to supplement. So if I want to do that, there's going to be some logistics like that that I need to figure out. But never say never.
Speaker 1:Well, I know you made it, if you and if and when you make that booth. Okay, I'm like when, when, when you know if Rowdy Berry can be there all 10 days and do his thing? You know hustle and bustle in the rodeo scene as well. You can do that too.
Speaker 3:We're there, we're at NFR almost almost the whole time already, just because I'm also a director for the high desert stampede, and so we both go to convention, roy and I. I go to the committee part and he goes to the bullfighter part, the contract personnel part. Okay, so we're still really busy during the day. Yeah, we're busy running around all over. Good way to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, still South points, your your base home base.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yep, yep, will it always be pretty sure, unless they decide to change something. But I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 1:When, how far out do you uh purchase your uh hotel?
Speaker 3:your room so we're really blessed in the fact that, since I'm with high desert, our block of rooms is taken care of. Through them, we've actually already secured our rooms for next year. They actually did it while we were in vegas. They, the front desk, got a hold of our treasurer and took care of it. Then which was awesome, I thought you were director of that, I did, yeah. Yeah, high desert's really interesting because I'm actually, by being a director, we are actually shareholders of the rodeo.
Speaker 1:So because it's so new, yeah, okay, big time Look at you and fun rodeo wise too.
Speaker 3:It's fun because I work during high desert stampede, I work the timed event gate, I run all of the production out of that side with our stock contractor, secretary red hat, hayley bridwell. So I'm actually headphoned up, mic'd up, um, so that I can talk directly to her, and our shoot boss on the other side so that we're coordinating everything behind the scenes. So it's fun that I get to be on the timed event and during the rodeo and then roy's working the rough stock end, okay.
Speaker 2:So we don't hardly see each other during high desert stampede, like it's separate ends of the arena and we're just running like chicken with our heads cut off.
Speaker 1:So it's great that's the one in redmond, correct?
Speaker 3:yes, yeah, first weekend in april, it's so difficult to get tickets. It's so difficult to get tickets it is, yeah, yeah, especially friday and saturday, we've had sold out shows and then we actually sell standing room only tickets after the first 15 minutes have gone by into the show. That way everyone's seated and then it's. It's just the mezzanine level that we're selling, so we never thought we'd have to do that.
Speaker 1:Even finals. You got to have a spot You'd be a sponsor, to get tickets to that too. It's crazy.
Speaker 3:For the NFR. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, the finals.
Speaker 3:Oh, circuit finals.
Speaker 1:Circuit finals finals, circuit finals or CCT finals, cct, oh yeah, cct that one's packed CCT finals.
Speaker 3:That's a really fun show.
Speaker 2:Jason sells that really well yeah, with his VIP.
Speaker 1:Yeah, alright, roy sells out really well yeah with his vip, yeah, yeah okay, all right, roy yes, sir man, man, oh man, it's tough to get from jesse to roy now because, man, I didn't know jesse was this big time man I've got a lot going on you guys, I don't how you guys do it. How do you guys have time? I mean, you guys spend a lot of time together, but wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, the summer was definitely a blur and it went by super fast just because of how busy we were. Yeah, but it was. It was fun as a ball.
Speaker 1:So do you? Last time I talked to you man, you were questioning it. You know you were invited. Permit wise nfr. Have you embraced the life of elite athlete?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I, I think I think you have to. Um, there's definitely um, you know. Know, you're still the new kid when you get to the pros. Like, this was considered my rookie year this year, so you know, I'm still learning things and learning how to, and I'm not just fighting bulls in the arena, I'm in the back pens running horses around, running stock and keeping the show running. So that's another element in and of itself.
Speaker 2:Like you got to earn those guys's trust in the backpins and and um, I mean, like a lot of these bucking horses and bulls, like they're upwards to 50 hundred thousand dollar bulls and horses. So, yeah, you got to take care of them, make sure you don't hurt them, and then turn around and fight bulls for the pro guys that are going down the road and making half a million dollars a year, um, so it's, it's a. It's a different ball game for sure, but I mean, in the end, I mean treat it like, treat it like any other rodeo and um, you don't, so you don't, you know, overwhelm yourself, um, you know what's, what's your goal this year, man?
Speaker 2:uh, definitely make the columbia river circuit. I think I a a legit shot this year. Um, like I said, last year was just learning the ropes and and figuring things out, so this year make a big run for that. Um, you know, I'm I'm working on my conditioning more and staying fit and watching how I eat and things like that, because I think that that goes. That goes a long ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you look solid man, you look solid, you look solid dude. Thank you, jesse's like stop, stop no.
Speaker 2:And I I think that's just for longevity too Like I want to do this for a while, like I'm 30 years old already and you know a lot of guys if they're lucky they'll get to 40 or 45, you know.
Speaker 1:Or 50 like.
Speaker 2:Ronnie, yeah, I mean, that could happen. But like if I'm going to do that, I need to take care of myself now, and so I'm looking at the long game and try to get as much out of it as I can yeah, you've been.
Speaker 1:You've been taking some hits though, man, yeah, I took a couple last.
Speaker 2:Sorry it was. Yeah, it was two, two, it was. Well, it's jason finals two years ago. Uh, I actually got a bull around the length of me and got underneath my vest and broke a rib. Yeah, the dang thing. He ran the length of me and I get up and come out of the arena, took a couple deep breaths and like okay, nothing's bubbling, and go to try to put my vest back on and I was missing panels on my vest. There's like three different panels on my vest and I was missing a rib piece. Where'd it go? It's still out in the arena.
Speaker 2:He shredded that thing. So a couple of the bull riders like give me some tape, let's tape this thing back on, let's go. And we fought six more bulls and I didn't feel it so much then. But that night I think I slept two hours and it sucked and then I had a performance the next day to go to. That was that was the. You decide if you want to do this or not. Yeah, so that was one that was not fun welcome to the big leagues, right, right yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, big time rodeo means big time people, man. Who's been the one that you watch when you have time? On any sport, though?
Speaker 2:Oh, like events. Oh, event, or like rodeo events and things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah Gosh, who was it? I was watching TJ gray a lot this year because, uh, I actually lived with um with them for like a month in Derry, oregon, cause I rodeoed. I rodeoed with uh, his brother, levi college, rodeoed with him and TJ was always hanging out and everything and and, uh, it was really cool to see TJ do what he did, because the kid was always hurt. Even when he was younger he was always breaking an arm, breaking something, and he never really got a chance to showcase his talent and um him making the NFR number one. I mean making it, I mean, you know, he didn't have the greatest finals, but like we were so proud of that kid and just so stoked and it was super cool to see him there and to know him from such a young age like that and to see him there that was pretty surreal.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right. What's the worst part of the rodeo for you? Worst part of the rodeo yeah, is it the waiting game when you're not doing stock?
Speaker 2:I'm pretty I'm pretty busy the whole night, I guess after the rodeo, because we got to feed stock and you're up till 2 or 3 am like I'm ready to go to bed. I got hay and every, every place imaginable and like I'm ready to go to bed but I I can't say it's the worst because, honestly, it's something that I love to do and you just kind of, you just kind of embrace it you get one, you get with you know one within the uh, the bull and the stock and stuff like that yeah, yeah, no, you really.
Speaker 2:You really get to know the animals when you're in the back pens and you learn a lot back there alright, man bullfighter.
Speaker 1:How many different ones, and who was the one that you were like, wow, I'm bullfighting with?
Speaker 2:it had to have been Eric Schwic schwent and logan blaisdell for sure, because that that was actually um. When I first thought about fighting bulls, I was watching those guys because they made it look, you know, so cool and so clean and the stuff that they did, and then to be to be able to fight with with those guys, um, that was. That was pretty cool to be along alongside those guys. Logan blaisdell got nominated for um, nominated to go the nfr. He was top five. Didn't make the nfr, but still he top five. That's. That's a. That's a very big achievement in pro rodeo. And then um eric made the eric made the nfr open that, that new uh, that new event.
Speaker 2:So that's coming up. So both of those guys are are amazing, amazing to work with logan's a big dude. Right, he's very big, it's really it's really funny because like I work, so like there's matt acres, there's logan and eric, and they're all pushing six foot and I'm five, nine, and then I watch myself on the cowboy channel and I just look like a little midget running around out there like it's like it's.
Speaker 2:So I mean, yeah, it's fine, but you know they're, they're big guys yeah, logan looks like a bull man. Dude, he's a stud man he took some, some hits, um that last year, well the year before he got hurt, you know, yeah, and I was so bummed out because I thought for sure that was this was going to be his year to make it, because if you get a nomination, well the year before, he got hurt, you know yeah, and I was so bummed out because I thought, for sure that was, this was going to be his year to make it, because if you get a nomination the next year, you're probably going to get it, you know, yeah, so him messing his knee up, yeah, it sucked okay, up and coming.
Speaker 1:Cct rider man kid, no kid. Who's the one I tried to reach out to, that one that you told me to Still waiting.
Speaker 2:Oh, are you? Yeah, so who's the one? Gosh, the one I'm watching right now. I like watching Wyatt Davis at the finals this year. He bucked off at two bulls that if he rode he would have won the finals for sure. He rode one the first night, gosh, they rode the crap out of some bulls. Um, he would have been in the high 90s on that first bull. He took him to like seven five hole, and then the one he had the day after that he took him about the sixth hole. But once, once, that kid, he'll get a little older, a little more mature. He's going to be unstoppable. I think he'll be the next one.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, man, he's a tough little guy. He's a little, he's little, and those guys.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. Those bulls buck him off His hand doesn't come out of the rope Like the longest hang up I've ever worked was his. The longest hang up I've ever worked was his. Was his, oh my gosh, yeah, his, his dad bought me a case of beer after that one.
Speaker 1:I bet, yeah, he's a tough. He's a tough kid man. I remember when he got in that uh, you know he was in the hospital, man, but yeah that was scary back on. I didn't think he was gonna be back on it, man, but dude yeah yeah, miracles, oh totally. But yeah, he's a senior now, isn't he? I'm pretty sure yeah I think.
Speaker 2:So I'm pretty sure I keep thinking he's older than he is because, uh, like I, I'll ask him. And he's like man, you're that young like geez, good dude, well, and even just being around him, he's just a mature kid.
Speaker 3:He's like man, you're that young, like geez, you're that good dude. Well, and even just being around him, he's just a mature kid, he's very mature and so polite.
Speaker 2:Just a great kid, Great family too. Love his mom and dad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, very respectful, very, yeah, and I mean, that's what you get from a Klamath Falls cowboy, right?
Speaker 2:Oh, totally.
Speaker 1:What about you, Jess? Who do I like to watch?
Speaker 3:Yes, oh, my gosh. Well, honestly, mine is the same as Roy's, because I love Wyatt's family. Every time I go to a CCT they're right there, how you doing, how you been, everything. So, um, and then I really also like watching justin houston. Just because he's also gone into the pros he still comes back to ccts, but he's always willing to help kids too. Yeah, um, from what I've seen, he's really willing to give back to the sport, and I respect that a lot too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's, he's, he's tough yeah. I like to say dirty, but that in a good way, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he's really good at landing in the wrong spot. Really has to save him a lot, but.
Speaker 1:Gotcha. Gotcha him a lot, but gotcha gotcha.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, all right. So what is the goal for 2025, for me or for both, I don't know. We we're just enjoying it right now. I got some pretty good pro rodeos coming up, um, and really just just building off of that, um, and just kind of see where it takes us. Like I said, um, columbia river circuit would be the goal, for sure, um, but yeah, just keep building on those rodeos and it's that's.
Speaker 1:That's pretty much it there what's your first event this year?
Speaker 2:uh gosh, I got, I got one for the cct in prineville. I'll do that one. Sisters, yeah, sisters would be in June, that's a for sure one. And then jump into Newport, right after that Eugene Canby and then Cashmere, colfax, washington, up around there Colfaxax huh yeah, yeah, well, have you been there?
Speaker 1:it's, it's dinky it's small oh yeah, it's, it's fun.
Speaker 2:I enjoyed, enjoyed going up there. It's, it's it's fun. It's a different, what northern washington's kind of a different world, I think it is.
Speaker 1:it's like the last frontier, especially eastern, eastern.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Northeastern.
Speaker 1:Washington. Yeah, it's like the last frontier man. Yeah, it's a different world yeah.
Speaker 2:Totally.
Speaker 1:And a lot of the boys that come out of there bull riding are from that area. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like JC Connor Dean. Yeah, bull riding um are from that area. Yeah, yeah, like jc connor dean. Yeah, most of those guys that weren't you talking to it. Uh, it's a treasure valley, you were talking. Yeah, most of those guys were from from that area.
Speaker 1:I thought yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah nice yeah, it's, it's a. It's a different breed man. They're like, they're different when I in a good way, in a great way. It's they're, they're the toughest kids I've ever seen. Yeah, I mean you know you can tell certain people and regions up there I'm probably up
Speaker 1:there, man, totally. Yeah. Uh, you know, j-dub marriott, he, he, you know, went on the podcast and then somebody picked him up, a contractor picked him up in montana and man, he's just been busy ever since, you know so that's awesome, yeah pretty cool. It's actually cool that people listen, you know, to the podcast yeah yeah, no yes, sir dude, two names come around it's you and hankinson. The third oh yeah, old james, every old james, you know he has a kid.
Speaker 2:now he does. He talks like an old man. They brought. They brought her down when she was she. She was real young.
Speaker 3:She was eight weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The beginning of August. So tiny, just the cutest little baby it was. It was cool. Walker, our, our, our dog was just totally like in love, in love with it.
Speaker 1:They were sitting on the floor and it just had his head just staring at the thing yeah yeah, it was cool, oh oh yeah, not gonna say anything, not gonna say anything wow roy said that's fine. Wow, roy said that's fine, hmm, any any little ones bullfighters soon or no?
Speaker 3:Just for babies right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, all right who knows.
Speaker 2:No question comes across, but I don't know. Well, someday maybe we'll see. But I don't know, someday maybe We'll see.
Speaker 1:You better. Let me know? Yeah, little Jackson For sure. All right. So what now? What's next for you, jessie?
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh. Well, I still always want to travel with him. So that's why I work the way that I work for myself, and so I'll keep silversmithing kind of the same pace I've already been doing. But I'm super excited actually about real estate, because I just went into business with my dad and so, um, it's I mean literally weeks old business Um, he's been doing it, uh, real estate, since 2006. So I can learn a lot from him and it's just I'm really excited to get to go into business together. So it's kind of of that's my main focus right now is building that business. So, um, but again I get to do it on the road. You know, really the only parts that I need to be in town for is showing houses and like going to inspections and things like that. So for the most part I'll get to travel.
Speaker 3:Roy and I want to go back to what Roy said actually, because he listed, you know, the rodeos he had. Has he actually had all those last year and I think it's so cool? So he mentioned it, worded it perfectly the other day Every time you go to a rodeo like a new one, it's a job interview. You go to a rodeo like a new one, it's a job interview and the fact that all of these that he went to want him back is just like the greatest compliment. And it's really fun for me because I went with him to every single one and I've gotten to know people and made connections.
Speaker 3:I'm really close with some of the committees um, canby's, my hometown rodeo, and I mean I know the High Desert crew, okay, I guess you know, okay. And then I love Newport. It's Newport, washington. Yeah, that's a great rodeo committee too. So but I just wanted to swing back around there because that's my just. I love traveling to rodeos, I love getting the trailer ready, I love making sure we're ready to roll as soon as he's off work and just getting to support him as much as I can. So that's I. I look forward to the rodeos just as much as he does.
Speaker 1:So do you think the reason why he's coming back is because of you?
Speaker 3:I guaranteed, yeah, we, we joke that I'm his manager.
Speaker 2:I honestly couldn't do without her, Cause, like, like she said, like I'll come home from work and it's literally come straight home from work, shower and and and head to the rodeo, and she's got everything ready, Trailer's ready to go, and and uh it. It's a huge help to have her in my corner, for sure it's awesome.
Speaker 1:You can tell the love. You can tell the love, you can see it. Nah, I'm not trying to embarrass anybody, I'm just spitting the love. You can tell the love, you can see it. I'm not trying to embarrass anybody, I'm just spitting the truth. That's great, oh man. So who's working Pendleton CCT next month?
Speaker 2:They actually had to cancel that, I guess, because they're doing some new building on the the pendleton grounds there, so it's gonna be hard to to get a rodeo done in there. But, um, they're thinking maybe, maybe the year after that. So okay, but yeah, james, james text me and he's like there's no pendleton this year, like now, and no, yeah, he was pretty bummed out. I really like to work with James because we just click well together and we really enjoy hanging out with each other.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that reminds me the two names that come around that I've run into. You know the kids. You know just down-to-earth cowboys who just you know the kids. Well, you know just down to earth cowboys who just you know. I'd ask them like who influences you? You and hank. Uh, hankinson always comes up man oh, really that's cool.
Speaker 1:That's good to hear a lot of kids respect you guys and uh like the fact that you know you do pay it forward and are respectful yourself and yeah, come in, you know, and, like I said before, the podcast.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, man yeah, no, thank you, appreciate that, man yeah, yeah, hey, hankinson, you know, he doesn't he he works really freaking hard, like he'll send me snapchats of just insane workouts that he does and he just kills himself and, uh, gosh dang, yeah, he, he works insanely hard, so I I think that's awesome yeah, yeah, but you, you guys, definitely those up and coming bullfighters too around the pacific northwest utah, they, they speak high.
Speaker 1:Love you guys.
Speaker 2:So keep doing what you're doing. Man keep thank you what you're doing, appreciate that so what are you sipping on right now? I'm sipping on a seltzer water right now it's a strawberry lemonade okay, it almost almost looked like a uh a beer, but no, not quite, I'll do um gosh, I've been into the ciders lately a little bit. Got the we went. What was that brewery and sisters that we went to three creeks is that the one? Oh, it was the barn. The barn, actually.
Speaker 3:Yeah they got another brewery there yeah, there's like a little the brewery might just be a tap house yeah, they got the they got the food carts around there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of my sponsors actually popped Southern Barbecue there. They got really good barbecue there. But yeah, I've been on the seltzers lately. They had like a lemonade huckleberry deal there. Yeah, cider, that was really good.
Speaker 1:All right. Where's your favorite place to eat in Redmond oh?
Speaker 2:Carnival for sure.
Speaker 1:Carnival.
Speaker 2:That's like the, that's like the big date night place we go to.
Speaker 1:Carnival.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh it's. It's awesome, man. What is it? What kind of food? It's a Mexican restaurant, okay, down there. So good yeah, we get the. What? Good yeah, we get the. What dish do we get?
Speaker 3:a lombres okay I hope I'm saying that right, you know, but it's, it's like steak and peppers, mushrooms, pineapple, um, I think there's bacon in there and then they put a little bit of cheese on top and just like. It's kind of like done fajita style and and then, you know, they have really good house made guacamole and have all that on the side, and then they have awesome margaritas.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I get the prickly pear margarita there, it's just.
Speaker 1:Any flavor other than regular margaritas is good. It's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good. Yeah, like lime or lemon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll tell you. I asked because I need to make a trip down there. Might end up going to Prineville since Pendleton's not going. But definitely haven't been drinking, man, I haven't been drinking man, I haven't been drinking you haven't? No, I my last beer, believe it or not. I had three beers when I first got there in vegas first day.
Speaker 1:Second day three beers yeah I ended up getting sick the final day and I was just like no, but I think I just had. I had bubble gums and I think that's what got me ill.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:But then when I got home had to start treatment, for you know cancer, and so I haven't. I've been afraid to do anything to inflame my system and. I stayed away from it. It feels pretty good. It feels pretty good I don't miss it.
Speaker 2:But man and honestly, like me, I went like the whole month of july didn't drink at all and even going back further than that, I quit drinking for like six months. There for a while, that was like the best my body ever felt. Yeah, um, it's just, it's so amazing, like I mean in all reality, like it does poison your body, like you drink that much of it's gonna affect you. Um, but like, yeah, like, even when I, even when I have a by a beer or a margarita or whatever, usually it's one or two and and then it's usually not not much and my body thanks me for that, you know, yeah yeah, so I had to ask the place because you know I normally go to an initiative yeah love initiative.
Speaker 1:The food is outstanding, but, man, I just don't want to have smell that beer and yeah so to that point, um carnival.
Speaker 3:Actually, I remember seeing one of their facebook posts. They're doing dry january, so they're making all of their signature cocktails non-alcoholic, and I'm sure they'll keep doing that. And because they're they're so good though they're everything's like fresh squeezed and everything.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's good since you're a real estate agent. How's the uh the market in the redmond?
Speaker 3:um, it's so busy. Yeah, I mean, roy does excavation and he's always busy. So we're constantly building, constantly selling.
Speaker 1:Is it becoming a metro area Part of Ben? You guys like going to be Tri-Cities yourself?
Speaker 3:I think that would be quite a ways away. But you know I'm not going to try to predict the future there it could happen, it might not, I have no idea it's, it's growing rapidly.
Speaker 2:It would take it would take a few years for it to join, but yeah, it's. It's the place to be right now redmond.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I would definitely take redmond over bend any day, and thank goodness Ben got that bypass finally.
Speaker 2:Oh, it helps a lot. You fly through that thing now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank God, all right. Yeah, we were there, so Prineville for sure. Who are you fighting with?
Speaker 2:Probably Victor Rodriguez Still around. Huh, oh yeah, prineville for sure. Who you, who you're fighting with? Uh, probably victor rodriguez still around, huh oh yeah, he fought every single cct event this year. So and that that kid's a stud too yeah, yeah, do you miss him?
Speaker 1:do you miss not fighting with him like you have been in the past?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, I, I like working with that kid and I still, I mean I worked. Every event that I did go to cct, it was with him yeah, and I'm I'm really comfortable working with him.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I think he's. He's the next kid coming up. I think that should go get his card, um, but I don't know, what's that, I don't know. I think I don't know. I think he's just don't know. I think he's just. I think he just enjoys where he's at right now and you know, there's nothing wrong with that at all. What? What makes you happy makes you happy, so just roll with it, man.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right. Do you think we said it all? Do you think we were done? We've been on it for a good hour. I don't know. You got more questions or I always have more questions.
Speaker 2:You got more questions Always go a little longer, if you want.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I hate you know, I'm going to. I'm going to say this before it gets too late, though, man to, to hear you talk now, compared to one 12's, it's quite, uh, a huge. It's a huge difference, man. That's a, you know you, you didn't question yourself that much, but you, you know you had a permit the nfr kind of spoke down to that and now to hear the confidence in your voice and yourself, dude, it's, it's cool to see man, it's cool to experience it and just see you be the elite athlete that you are, man.
Speaker 1:So no I, I, man, it's, it's, it's amazing. It's amazing how you know, when I saw you and I continue to see you or talk to you, you know, you lift me up and I, I think it's my turn to uh, turn to you and uh, pay it forward and tell you dude, thank you, and that you, you yourself, are a rock star and I owe you a lot too man so I know this bro moment. Jesse, sorry, that's a bro moment you have your moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah and even and even like with you, like, like your your past podcast, like when you did the one with me, like your questions have changed so much and it's just, it's just come so far and uh, it's, it's pretty cool to see what you're doing. I like that you're. You're interviewing the, the college kids, and getting into that college rodeo world and talking to those guys. That's pretty neat.
Speaker 1:They love it, dude, they love it, oh yeah. Man, the kids love it because they even say off air. They say you know I, I like the fact that you give us little guys, you know, a voice. You know that right. There is why I'm doing what I do, man, you know I can, I can go for the big guys, but how many other people are doing the big guys?
Speaker 2:Well, and it's great it's. It's great too because there's like a lot of, you know, everybody wants to talk, wants to talk to those big guys and they don't they don't really want to talk to the college, the college athletes, and those college athletes they do have a story Like um, you know, I made, I made the, the college national finals, um, and anybody that goes there, um, that that's a, that that's a, that's a big rodeo to go to, um, yeah, you know, and to make that that's a big accomplishment and, you know, for some of those kids to make that that's pretty cool yeah, even the high school level, man washington is I know oregon's pretty good, but man, the washington kids, they take it up a notch man, maybe it's because I have a couple at the school and I I interview a few of them in and around washington and man, they, they're very competitive, man, and oh, totally yeah, they're friends, but man, they talk the most crap about each other.
Speaker 1:it's funny, funny, it's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all in fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's cool to see it, man, you know. Yeah, yeah, connor Dean really brought it to JC, you know. So JC, hopefully, is going to be on soon, hopefully.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that was funny.
Speaker 2:He, connor, brought up uh his uncle, scotty Bartell and uh Lyle. And it was when when I back when I was riding bulls when I was really young, they were like the older guys riding, so it was funny that they brought those two names up. Like man, I rodeo with those guys back when like npra times and stuff like that, so that's cool to hear their names again with with cody, uh, not cody, um, uh, this he said he mentioned scotty and he mentioned lyle and those, those two guys, yep okay the, the uncles, he talked, he talked about the uncles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, about the uncles you know how I got connor on. Man, I wanted connor on before he was a senior, right, right and, and I tried to get him on. He just ignored me. He talked to me a bit and then he ignored me. The only way I got him on is because I know cody man all right, cody went after him for you no, well, you know I, I cody's a musician and man he's, he's really good.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he does honky tonk, you know, and the sound and dude, there's nothing like it. You know you don't get that much around here and it's kind of what's up?
Speaker 2:have you heard of hunter styles?
Speaker 1:yes, yes have you gotten him on yet?
Speaker 2:no, I've seen him a couple times, I talked to him, but uh, yeah, yeah, he, yeah, he's, he's good, he's good, but yeah he's a cool dude, I like, I like hunter he's actually he's going to a couple of the rodeos that I'm at and he hung out with us, his sisters, his whole family and everything. He's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a really nice guy, yeah, yeah, I saw him a couple times. But, cody, every time he comes in and around town I'll go watch him, but uh, nice yeah I had them on the podcast and then it's like connor, when is it man, when I'll be on? So I was like yeah, finally, and then he gets on. It's like 30 minutes and then afterwards, a lot of these kids, they're like I yeah where I could have said more.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, you could have, but you know I'm not gonna. I'm going to push you, man. So next time let's talk, next time, yeah.
Speaker 2:The world's going by so fast for those kids.
Speaker 1:Right, I know man, I remember Lane talking to him Madsen, look at what Madsen, god that boy.
Speaker 2:It was really cool. So I went to circuit finals to go hang out and and help pull gates and things and it was like the whole klamath crew was in the locker room. It was like lane vaughn, tj, gray, levi, gray cole hill was there and you just kind of sit there and you're hanging out. It's like man. These were all the kids in klamath that I rodeoed with. We I mean from the junior bulls on up and now we're all in the pros and it that was.
Speaker 1:That was pretty cool yeah, and lane's making his name a name for himself. Man, it's, it's quite really a treat to see he's I mean, he's traveling. Speaking of travel, will you stay in the Pacific Northwest?
Speaker 2:I'll go pretty much anywhere they ask me to go, just kind of how it works. If somebody gets hurt and they need a guy and they call me, I'll go. So I'm not scared to go to Texas or go clear across the country.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was going to say you know, go to Texas or go clear across the country. Okay, I was going to say how far East.
Speaker 2:Well, it also depends on if it'll be affordable to get there, you know, because traveling is expensive. That's why, uh, I have a few sponsors now and that makes that makes a world of difference going down the road and and things like that. Um, yeah, I, I really couldn't do it without those guys either who are they?
Speaker 1:how many? How many do you have? First of all, I think I got five. Wow, good job man yeah so bach and js, she doesn't count, it counts, just kidding.
Speaker 2:Rock and Jay Realtree, now Oregon.
Speaker 3:Living Service. That's changing.
Speaker 2:Pop Southern Barbecue in Sisters, american Adrenaline in Hoodview Graphics sisters um American adrenaline um and hood um graphics and peak wellness. Peak wellness yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've been with them for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, peak wellness is really cool. She, uh, she does the the IV stuff A lot of times. I'll get that just for an event and I feel awesome, that's, that's, that's cool, that's a really sweet deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've been with them. For how long? Shoot two years, two years maybe. Yeah, well shout out to all your sponsors, including Rocking J. Oh guys, man, roy, I can't believe we we're. We're back on man and I yeah, I'm glad to see you just killing it, killing the game, along with your wife. It's amazing to even you know, to hear you be there for him throughout this whole.
Speaker 3:Push, a push yeah, it's just life now, it's a lifestyle, yeah did it roy?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, it's. It's a great life and there's still a lot more to come. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, for sure. So.
Speaker 2:Don't like like some people say, don't forget where you came from, Right oh totally, and if you have to, that's and that's the part like when you make it to these big shows like. So my first night at sisters, like, was a very humbling experience. Like it was a Saturday night I happened to get in because um eric schwint had gotten hurt saturday night and like that's the biggest, that's the biggest crowd, yeah. And then, like jb mooney was out that night, stetson wright was out that night, kai hamilton, I think, won it that night, and to just be there and be a part of that, it was just like, wow, why me God? That was pretty cool. So anytime I'm at those big rodeos like that, it's just awesome to be a part of it.
Speaker 1:When they called you up and you hit the dirt and you're, you're working right. Yeah, how was your heart rate, man?
Speaker 2:It was racing, for sure, but the but the time like leading up to it was was the most the the more drama. Dramatic, I guess I should say. So. The Wednesday night, um, I was just there pulling gates like they just hired me for that, and one of the bullfighters got. It was, uh, danny newman got ran over first bull out and he was out for the x bulls. Well, I already had my permit, so you know, legally I could have fought that deal and and Eric and Logan ended up finishing the X-Bowls and then we went through. Was it Thursday night? It was, yeah.
Speaker 3:I thought it was Wednesday.
Speaker 2:No, it was Friday night. Friday night on Fulham Gates and Eric no, eric hadn't gotten hurt yet um, I was, yeah, I was pulling gates and a bull rider got knocked out right in front of the bucking shoots and that bull went to the corner of the arena opposite of the outgate and I'm kind of standing over this guy and I know that bull's gonna come back and I'm just in my street clothes and here, sure enough, here comes this bull and I just it was just a little move to get him away, but somebody, somebody filmed it and got a really got a really sweet video of it. It's on my instagram. But uh, somebody filmed that. And then, um, I think it was the next night no, it was a day performance.
Speaker 2:That saturday eric ended up pulling his hamstring really bad, and he was, he was fighting it off, and I mean that that guy's so tough, like he didn't. He didn't want to give a spot up and I don't blame him, like you never want to do that. And it wasn't up until an hour before the rodeo that I, that he's like okay, you're, you're in, roy, and that was pretty crazy in of itself right there, like, okay, let's go do this. And and then that that was pretty wild, just like an hour before the. The show is just your heart, just my heart was just racing the whole night you know.
Speaker 2:And then now that I've gotten to know everybody there and everything they you know, they they want me back and actually filled in, for I filled in for logan last year because he messed his knee up, and then they want me back this year.
Speaker 3:So, um, just just some great stories there yeah, I want to add to that story, uh, just a little bit. So they you know Brock had caught it on camera, filmed it and he's a professional videographer and Ben and sisters posted that video of Roy making that save and I don't think he even knew it, um, but people ended up seeing it. A lot of people that come to sisters go a second night, things like that. They want to come to Saturday night and the crowd when they announced roy was so loud it was the loudest I had ever heard that crowd until you know, a really great bull ride was made, um, but I don't, you probably didn't even notice that I didn't your ear was so loud, people knew it was you and I don't think you caught it, but it was really cool.
Speaker 3:I was up in the plaza yeah filming and, uh, it was just wild the roar. I loved it, I didn't hear.
Speaker 2:I didn't hear the announcer the whole night like it was just yeah, I was totally in the moment.
Speaker 1:You're in the zone man yeah okay, you've been doing a lot of cardio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some, some cardio. I've been. I've been trying to run on the track a little bit more. Um, not like crazy miles or anything Like I don't I don't know how many miles like runners do a day or anything like that, but I don't know get one or two miles in, try to do that quite often. And then I got a the stationary bike over here. I'll, I'll, uh, I'll ride that and put on bullfighting highlights and and just do that too, and then, along with some other workouts that I do so well if I make it down to prineville.
Speaker 1:Last time I I went there right the next day. I ended up trying to do smith rock. I did smith rock, but I spent the night in um in my truck and then, man, that was the coldest night ever. It was the coldest night ever, but that's why I said I tried to do smith rock. I did do Smith Rock, but, man, I just couldn't get warm. The weather's fine and I do go to Prineville. How about you do Misery Ridge or Misery Hill with me?
Speaker 2:I feel like you might outrun me dude Distance-wise.
Speaker 1:We'll hike. We'll hike not run. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:We'll hike. We'll hike, not not run, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 2:So game on, I'm not a long distancer by by any means. It's just pure to like, just to keep my keep it up enough, you know that's, that's a.
Speaker 1:That's a huge training ground. Man, you can get some miles in you can definitely get your cardio. There man the world like elite runners, train there, you know, you got to get a few of them and bend. You know that's cool yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, quite a few of them been. And every now and then when you go to Smithrock you see him, you're like oh man, this you know, you know he's. He's the big dog, you know, he's like tj yeah, you know, mooney, you know, and yeah, dude, it's crazy, it's crazy that's wild.
Speaker 1:You know what else is crazy? The fact that this podcast has gotten a lot of the rodeo guys running. Really, yeah, that's good for them. Yeah, it's pretty cool, man. It's pretty cool because I don't know. Man, the western world is a lot more honest than the running world. I'm gonna tell you that. And the love that I I get from you guys, man it. There's nothing compared to it and the fact that I have the western guys saying, hey, you got me running, you know yeah and then the run.
Speaker 1:The psalm runners say oh, you got me in, you know. First first rodeo I should have done this a long time ago, but yeah not not too many people, but a lot of the rodeo guys say hey, man, you got me running, I was in a funk, I I started running and thank you. You know it's pretty cool man.
Speaker 2:So yeah, really good for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, it says the person that's not running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't run. I don't like to run. I honestly I don't like running. I just know it's good for me Right To get away from the bulls. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I want to.
Speaker 2:I want to have a long career To get away from the bulls, yeah, and I want to have a long career. Yeah, and Jessie's there every step of the way, right? Yeah, she had to take a little break because she had hurt her knee, but she's back to running now.
Speaker 3:I'm so happy to be, back. I like running Genuinely like running I've done a couple half marathons, nothing longer than that, but yeah, um, that's, yeah, one of my favorite ways to get outside that and riding my horse, so that's how I get outdoors.
Speaker 2:I think our first date. We went on like a three mile walk or something 2.75.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was around a, there's a. He took me to breakfast for our first official date. He drove four hours to take me to breakfast. That was the first sign that I knew I should give this guy, um, a little bit of time and give a little bit of a chance, because he drove four hours for breakfast and then he walked around. There's a golf course in oregon city that has a track around it and it's got a little bit of everything in it. It's really fun. I I went and ran it all the time when I lived over there and, yeah, we went on a big walk and he kept coming back. So, yeah, I didn't scare him off love at first sight.
Speaker 1:And now look at you guys, man, for four years, now four four years yeah it's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll be five in august.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep oh yeah, the last time I talked to you we're living in a fifth wheel and then we've bought a house. Since then, we've been in that for two years yeah, see, time flies, time flies.
Speaker 1:Hey, do you work the mutton busting?
Speaker 2:I mean, if they're out there, if I'll help a kid get up, but there's not a whole lot I can really do. No, no, I chase them and then, if the, when the kid falls off, I pick them up and send them to their parents. That's about all I could do. Do you do that, though? Do you do that? That's, it's pretty. Oh, I chase them and then, if the when the kid falls off, I pick them up and send them to their parents. That's about all I could do.
Speaker 1:Do you do that, though? Do you do that? That's, it's pretty cool watch the, the big guys, the bullfighters, you know, pick these little kids up, you know. Yeah, by their best yeah, are you?
Speaker 2:that's fun. It's fun when they, when they ride them clear across the arena. I'll hold them up over my head and the crowd goes crazy, right. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask is that the best part? Is that the highlight of your day?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I like to see well any of the young guys coming up, whether it's the Wyatts or any kid on the steers doing well. It's the Wyatts or any kid on the steers doing well. I really enjoy seeing the next generation coming up. And that kid that I told you about, he's an individual that I've actually coached for quite a few years and he's finally really hitting his stride and doing well, and that kid has the hardest work ethic I think I've known from anybody, um, and it's cool to see him doing some cool things all right, I think we had enough.
Speaker 2:I think think we're golden. I think we got it, man. That was a solid podcast.
Speaker 1:It's still going. It's still going.
Speaker 2:It's still going Well.
Speaker 1:We can talk about that later. But like I said, Roy, like I said this is fun, dude, I like this.
Speaker 2:This is yeah, this is cool, just get a reminiscing talk. Rodeo Anytime, anytime is yeah, this is cool, just get a reminisce and talk talk rodeo anytime, anytime, anytime.
Speaker 1:And I'm glad you you thought of bringing the wife jesse oh, I have to.
Speaker 2:It was great man. It was great, great combination man yeah and uh, definitely you guys.
Speaker 1:It's fun to watch you guys and you know you support him. You support her by modeling, sponsoring her, she sponsors you. You know that whole that whole connection.
Speaker 1:You know it's pretty, it's, it's cool to uh see it on instagram. I see the love, I feel the love and you know, when I was at the uh nfr this year, jesse, you know, um, reaching out and talking to me meant the world and you know I was telling my wife like you know, yeah, jesse, you know roy, and she's like who? Yeah, I had him on the podcast, my good buddy, you know it just I don't know, man, vegas is big but it's small.
Speaker 1:But to know that you know, um, you got connections and you guys wanted to hang out and talk and it felt good, man, it felt part of the, the family, you know. And uh, when every time I go to the nfr I told uh, tracy, that's the first time I took her, but, um, there's, there's gonna be people. I see it's always rowdy and always dell brisby man, and then you know if you, when you guys are there, I know you guys are there, I'm gonna have to make make sure I stop by, no matter what, stop everything yeah, hang out with the jacksons hey, you want to hear a story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's hear it, hear it Each year, man. I've been seeing Dell and I've been talking to him. Man.
Speaker 2:He's a good guy.
Speaker 1:He's a really nice guy. I don't know if you talk to him. Have you talked to him?
Speaker 2:I've never met him. I listen to a lot of his podcasts and they're really neat podcasts. He's a really deep individual.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, podcast, he's really. He's a really deep individual. Oh yeah, yeah, man, he yeah, no, he's, he's, he's nothing. Like he ain't no cowboy, you know, he's nothing yeah, that's just a facade man, that's a totally and so you, you talk to him, man, and, and I talked to him last year and I was with uh brock betzler and uh, he's like, dude, go talk to him, all right.
Speaker 1:So I was like, hey, that was wonder, man, 20 minutes all I want is 20 minutes and you know, we, we, we, uh, I try to make a joke by purchasing something like a birthday, a birthday did I tell you about this, uh-uh nah, so a birthday flyer. You know you can pay him, like you know, to say happy birthday and whatever. But I didn't do that. I was like when are you going to be on my podcast? And dude changed it up and he made the joke on me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's pretty funny man. So I told him the joke, told him how it went, uh. So what he said was like uh, not yet, but you know, purchasing merch or gear will get you a little closer. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to find it. I have it I have it somewhere. It's pretty funny and I told him that joke. I was like so when are you gonna give me 20 minutes, at least 20 minutes yeah man, just you know, email me, email me, you know, monday, tuesday at this and like all right yeah, okay I'll do that, but then you know my dad and all this stuff and so went up to him again.
Speaker 1:Tracy's like there he is, there he is, go talk to him, you know yeah she doesn't have a clue, you know she just yeah, she likes rodeo, but she doesn't know like the big name. She you know.
Speaker 2:But she knows I do.
Speaker 1:And she's like, there he is. I was like, okay, it's like dell man talked to you last year. He's like yeah, I know you look familiar and so, yeah, you're all talking to me. I was like, you know, just confident and everything else.
Speaker 1:And he's like yeah email me, we can do it. You know what? Oh nice, how about you go to my ranch? I'm like, oh, this is out of you know nowhere. And he's like I'll even hook you up with the Airbnb. I'm like, really, yeah, I'm all like dude for real. He really yeah, I'm all like dude for real. He's like, yeah, man, I'm only two hours of you know such and such place and you know, just get a hold of me, I could hook you up, all right, and we can do it on my place. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:that would be cool definitely do it, but man yeah like I'm not nervous, but it's like holy crap, man for this guy just to say he's, he can. You know I can go to his place, use his setup yeah man, it's like really I would jump on that dude.
Speaker 1:That's yeah, that's cool yeah he's been on joe rogan man like no, he's, he's a good guy man, and you know, um, definitely the hearing that was like did I make it so? Definitely know what you're going through, roy, or what? You did go through and, uh man, the confidence that you know, talking to you during prineville and everything else, it really meant a lot and it means a lot. So paying it forward as I can and I know you do and, jesse, I know you as well behind the scenes, or being his manager.
Speaker 1:But no, yeah so, roy man, it's a pleasure, jesse, thank you so much glad you were on the podcast. Great idea, Roy Glad I saw you turn red, oh worth it. I need you to reach out every year that I'm doing this podcast and come back on Please.
Speaker 2:I need to get to your place sometime and get you still. Do you still have the studio right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, I need. Mike reed was the last person in here oh, really okay well yeah yeah, let mike yeah, last one yeah you go like do the actual studio sometime.
Speaker 2:I think that'd be pretty cool man.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, you know it's pretty cool to to see how you know it's grown on, how many listeners, how many you know people listen to this. The one thing is, I don't ask for much, I don't ask anything at all, you know, yeah, I still fanboy man. One of these days I'll end up getting a sponsor or two yeah so so I could, you know, travel more and have a little more fun.
Speaker 2:But oh, totally, I have fun, just putting my own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know it's just that.
Speaker 2:It's just that grind, um, find the opportunities, take them when they come, and then just, and then just being patient, letting, letting, letting God take over after that, um, yeah, I mean, that's how it's how it's been for me for sure. I mean it's, it's a God thing, just just being here.
Speaker 1:So I gotcha, I gotcha, roy. Where can people follow you, man?
Speaker 2:Well, I've got an Instagram. I've got a Facebook. Um, what is it? Official Roy Jackson on Instagram. Um, that's where they can follow me. I have a few YouTube videos out there. They're mostly just highlight reels, but yeah, I should post more on youtube I feel, like more on instagram. Instagram man. I was posting a lot on instagram when I first started and then I don't so much I need to. I think I just need to start doing that more a?
Speaker 1:uh, just a pointer start looking at some of the bullfighters in east, southeast, like alabama, georgia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they got good stuff?
Speaker 1:yeah, they got it they got it, man, they, they, they know how to promote themselves, and those boys are bad. That's. That's another thing, man. There's a different breed down there. They're different you wouldn't think, you know, they're that tough man. They stick together, just like these boys up here, you know.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of talent all over the nation. It's crazy. It's hard to differentiate Like they're just that talented and that close, like that's how good they are, you know.
Speaker 1:There's a few that are cream of the crop, but there's a lot of talent below that. That's amazing. Oh yeah, jesse, where can people follow you? And I'm just gonna say this guys, if you want to look at her stuff, their stuff. Sponsor. Roy, it's rockandjdesignsshop, correct? Yes, basically, go to what Instagram? Because the link's there on your Instagram bio.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's rockandjdesigns for the Instagram and Facebook and then, yeah, you said the website, and then they can also follow me if they want. I've got a personal facebook and personal instagram. Mrs jesse jackson that's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw that like okay or it wasn't I made a name I had to do something different yeah, gotcha, or they can just attend a rodeo that you'll be at. See your little grab bag, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:ask for the the mary k box. They want to see the goods they can right.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm hanging out at the trailer take him to the side, be like here. This is what I got we always joke that I should have a trench coat full of jewelry yeah you know, like when you watch those 80, 90 movies, uh, in new york, they're like what you want. You know that kind of thing. I got these.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what it reminded me of yes, that's exactly how I feel, but it works. I just I don't know what else to do. It works okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, thank you, thank you, jesse, thank, thank you, roy. I appreciate you. Man, appreciate you more than you think. And no, and Jesse, I man, I'm glad you made it so great idea man.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Nick, and really appreciate you. Love you brother.
Speaker 1:You too, man, and till next time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, till next time, for sure.