Miles & Mountains

Hardcore Keem: From Local Venues to Metalcore Vanguard

Nick Episode 230

This week, we chat with the dynamic figure himself Hardcore Keem, about his rise from local venues to becoming a key player in the electronic metalcore music landscape. We highlight his collaboration with Jonny from The Browning, which resulted in unforgettable tours and performances that solidified their bond and mutual respect.
From street moshes to YouTube sensations, we cover Keem's journey to online fame. Learn about Bobby the dummy's quirky origin and how involving family and friends diversified his channel's content. We'll reflect on the importance of supporting local music scenes and the joy of promoting lesser-known bands. This episode celebrates the creative synergy between artists and their audiences, emphasizing the profound influence of heavy metal on our lives.

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Speaker 2:

Hardcore Keem how are you Doing great man Doing great what's up?

Speaker 1:

It's a trip that you're here. Man Didn't think you would be here, but I'm glad I ran into you in a small town called Richland and a small venue called Ray's Lion.

Speaker 2:

Ray's. Was it Ray it raised? Is it raised golden lion?

Speaker 1:

golden lion raised yeah the lion of all places. You guys played. You played there, man, yeah. And then, like before, then I was like, okay, all right, I have this podcast. I've had it for years and I'm like man, I would love to get keen on the podcast, but I didn't think it would work until I actually met you in person. So here I am, met you in person, and then I'm like dude, I want you on the podcast and you're like what, stoked? And then you know like what for real?

Speaker 2:

you know, that show almost didn't happen, right, because of the sound. Yeah, because they have like an analog system and everybody on the package uh, yeah, like we have like plug-ins, di and it was. It almost didn't happen. But um, uh, shout out to, I think, hollow front of victims. They brought out, uh, this, this front of house guy who had like his own modular thing, so we all ran it off of there. So, yeah, shout out to Carter. Yeah, Hollow front was yeah, yeah, they're so sick, they're so sick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, so it explains, because you guys were having some issues too right before your set and it cut your set short, correct, right right, we only had like a 15 yeah, 15 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was. It was crazy. I think our our trigger wasn't like working at all or anything like that, it was, it was, it was bad you guys pulled it off, so, before we aired, talked about an ambassador.

Speaker 1:

All All right. Right, do you consider yourself an ambassador?

Speaker 2:

Nope, why not? No, I just, I just see that, um, I'm a guy who's like just really enjoys music and then I'm, I'm just like, uh, I'm like the bridge between, I'm like some people's bridge between, uh, people that they don't know. So like if a band you don't know, I'm like, hey, this, check this band out, this band's cool. I just think I'm a pretty much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm the middle man. All right, middle man, okay. Well, I like what you're slinging, you know like ambassador yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that. Like people say oh yeah, I don't know, you know, I'm betting, I don't like it all right, I don't even really like the word influencer.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't going to say that, but consider yourself an ambassador, because some people call themselves an ambassador, but I'm like you know, ricky Rackman was the guy for me, because that's how old I am, all right, headbanger's Ball was the know to ever put out. The genre that you put out, you know, and now it's you, it is you and only you, and the music that you put out. Man is phenomenal and it's just like dude you. You got me into some of the guys that that I would never even heard of, you know, and one of them that sticks out is phil's.

Speaker 1:

I like that dirty, so tight that dirty stuff, you know, and man, uh, you got me into them and I I'm going on the trail because you know I run a lot and everything else. And I'm going on the trail and I'm hitting phil that I have to like turn it down because all the cuss words in front of the old people.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you be blaring it out loud yeah, I, I don't wear headphones. Oh, wow, oh. You like to hear nature. That's what you do. You like to be one with nature. I got you.

Speaker 1:

If I'm running.

Speaker 2:

I have to, I don't know. I have to have headphones on because I think hearing myself breathe is like I'm like. I'm like all right, yeah, it's kind of loud.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, that's crazy. Yeah, I don't blast it too much, I just use my phone speaker, not like I'm not that guy that puts on a jbl or some bluetooth speaker and tie it up on my waist and stuff like that. But but no, I mean, you're ambassador of all. I'll just give you that and I appreciate what you do besides the social media part. And ambassador dude, you're the guitarist of the Browning. Yes, all right, how did that happen, man?

Speaker 2:

So I believe it was back in 2020. I was on Johnny's podcast, the vocalist of the Browning. I was on his podcast. You know we talked, we chopped it up, we always talked here and there. Then back in I think it was early 2022, he was like, hey, the Browning is starting up again. Well, he dropped the album in 2021. He's like we're starting back up touring.

Speaker 2:

He was like I need a bassist. I was like at first basis and I was like at first I had told him no because I was like, ah, I'm gonna be busy. And then he had like asked again because I gotta get he's. He's like a guy who's like persistent, like he, this guy gets what he wants. So, yeah, he asked me again. He was like, hey, listen, uh, this tour again. Uh, it's shorter because I believe first it was like 30 days and stuff like that, that something happened. And then it got.

Speaker 2:

Now it was like a two week tour, two week headline tour, and I was like you know what? I gotcha, I'm gonna do it. So did the tour really vibed with them, really vibed with Cody, everybody else in the band, and then later he was like, hey, you want to be a part of it? And I was like, yeah, I've been listening to the Brownies since I was in middle school, so it's still crazy to this day. So I was on bass first, since 2022. And then he was like, all right, we're going to go into this new era. Do you want to get on guitar? And I was like, oh, no, not really. And he was like, great, you're on guitar.

Speaker 1:

I was like oh man, when you say new era, what do you mean, or what did he mean by that? What do you mean, or what did he mean by that?

Speaker 2:

So basically just heavy, like heavy balls to the wall, like the browning is like we still keep the browning essence but it's just more intense, like how you heard in, like Voice Crack, poison, like Deceiver and stuff like that, because he basically branched off off. Because there is a song, skybreaker it's like one of the softer songs, so he like took that and for those fans who really like that type sound, he branched off and now he does a project with his wife with that type sound. So the Browning could be just a straight heavy aggressiveness okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

And you said middle school man, all right, when I think of the browning they started in 05, man, it's been almost 20 years since I graduated college. I mean, that's how old I am. All right, keem and uh age me a bit every time, and so so when I think of them, especially their last, well, their five albums that they have, every one is different but they stuck close to the electronic sound. Have you always been a fan of the electronic sound? Did you like it since you were in middle school? I mean, what got you into that genre of metal?

Speaker 2:

yeah. So, um, I think my first bridge to like the metalcore sound was that worst product. Um, I loved how they used their electronics. But, uh, I was real heavy into like the myspace I don't know if you they they call it like myspace, core Core or the MySpace bands and stuff like that Almost every band used electronics and crazy over-the-top synth and stuff like that. So that's when I really fell in love with it. And then the Brownie it was just easy for me to get into. And then I've always, as the years gone by, bands kind of strayed away from the electronic side. But I still really love, like all my reactions If a band uses like a synth or like just some type of melody in the background. I always point that out because that just stands out to me and I feel like that makes the song better. I think it adds more layers to it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for a minute there. There, I thought you were all about the drops. I thought you were all about the drops but lately, lately, you've been put picking up the background of this. You know that snake, snake, well is it? And you were like, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like that's, that's what I loves.

Speaker 2:

I like. I love breakdowns more than you know anybody. But if you add, like a synth over a breakdown, it just makes the breakdown more complete. You know what I'm saying? Like it just brings it all together.

Speaker 1:

If you had to pick, which one do you prefer? What gets the reactions? Man, because you got the wildest reactions. The man, because you got the wildest reactions, the facial expressions, dude, you got it down. And every time you get that, people feel and they're like oh, you know, they're just on it um, okay, yeah, so it'll have to be breakdowns first.

Speaker 2:

Then, okay, yeah, yeah, breakdowns first and for sure breakdown ever, ever heard.

Speaker 2:

I ever heard mmm. That's actually kind of hard. I do hear a lot of. I am a man of many breakdowns. Wildest breakdown I ever heard uh, it may be probably one from probably Larcenia Rowe I don't know if you heard them. I believe they're from North Carolina. They're a really crazy band coming up. They have wild breakdowns and his vocals on top of the breakdowns is insane. I'm trying to think of one song, but it's definitely like Larsenero is pretty up there with the craziest breakdowns, okay.

Speaker 1:

Alright, Alright man. Favorite Browning song Favorite.

Speaker 2:

Browning song Okay.

Speaker 1:

Favorite.

Speaker 2:

Browning song. Okay, one right now is the Sadist. The Sadist is going back. That's one of my favorites, and then another one will definitely have to be Fifth Kind. Those are like up there. Those are up there for me for like Browning songs. It's more like emotion, like I can like feel the emotion, like you know, you like listen to music, you're like dang, you're like at goosebumps, like the first time I heard those I was like this is some serious stuff right here okay, I got you all right, hey, so.

Speaker 1:

So I got three daughters. I know you have a daughter because she's included in some of the headbanging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have.

Speaker 2:

So I got three daughters, and I know you have a daughter because she's included in some of the headbanging skits that you have.

Speaker 1:

So I got three daughters and they don't like that kind of music. And then they're like are you listening to bad guy music? I'm like no, because bad guy shows bad guy movies bad guy whatever. And so, to bring it lightly, the songs that just get me going before a run, before a race, is God is Taught and man. I'm a huge fan of the Switchback man.

Speaker 2:

Switchback Switchback's a good song, yeah, yeah, man, that's a really good song, yeah man, that's really good.

Speaker 1:

I try to keep it clean for my girls, you know.

Speaker 2:

I gotcha, yeah, my daughter's favorite songs. I think she has like four, like she always like oh no five that she goes like in between she likes poison, she likes hive mind, she likes dragon. Um, she likes the fearless remix. And then I think right now that, like we play every day, um, she really likes cryo sleep right now, um, from isolation, she really likes cryo sleep right now um from isolation.

Speaker 1:

She really likes that song right now, so I was like oh, you like it, I love it, those remixes that you guys been putting out. Man, john, you know, johnny's on some man. Yeah, johnny johnny's he's.

Speaker 2:

He's like once he dies, like his brain has to be studied. Like yeah, he's, yeah, he. He's like if you just have like a conversation with him, he'll make you think. He's one of those type people Like he'll really make you think and he'll make you like want, want to do better for yourself.

Speaker 1:

You're like hey well, he's one of those guys. Oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure. So tell me about Deceiver and Poison, the new singles on the new album that hasn't come out yet, correct?

Speaker 2:

Right, no, no, it hasn't come out yet. We didn't even announce it yet, but it's coming out later this year, for sure.

Speaker 1:

When he told you the style he wanted, what were your thoughts, man, and how was your reaction?

Speaker 2:

um, uh, with his so, so, like johnny, johnny does writes like all the music, like he, he's, he's the writer, he's the uh, the uh, the architect. So when he like sends me something, he's like, hey, what you think about this, what you know? Sometimes I'm like how, how do you come up with this stuff? Because he's been doing it since 2005, and he's always reinventing the wheel for brownie music. So, let's say, deceiver the last time, besides Goddess Tot, the last time we used like german was yeah, um, what was it? 2000 to 2018, I'll? I know, I know what the album's called uh, guys, that's what it's guys. So those voices are actually people in his like discord, right? So when, yeah, it's like, it's like uh, it's like two people from his he loves to get his his like fans like involved in the music, like he always like send it to them like early, like he's what I need to join discord.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, join his discord, like he's.

Speaker 2:

he's crazy. He does like private live streams, all that over there. So, um, no, so what was I talking about, deceiver? So when he originally had sent me the first mix of it, I was like what? I was kind of lost for words. I was like this is crazy. He's like all right, now, let's make it heavier. I was like it's already heavy. He's like no, because he's always wanting to take it a step further and just wow the person and like always catch them off guard. He says he has this tactic called like tension and release, so he definitely uses that a lot with the music and I was like that is so fire. Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

And yet you can still listen to his lyrics and hear what he says. You know, if he gets any heavier is he afraid of that. That little distortion there of like people can't hear anything.

Speaker 2:

No, he's definitely not. He actually has a really um, uh, crazy, uh vocal range that, like people have even heard. I always tell him this. I was like I think you're limiting your vocals on the Browning, because his vocals are up there you can tell.

Speaker 1:

On certain songs you're like dude, he could have taken it up a notch, but right yeah, like he's hiding something he's hiding.

Speaker 2:

He really is Like he. He holds himself back with the browning stuff for sure, and he's like, nah, I don't want to like, he just he just doesn't want to really do it. But I was like, hey, you need to to, you need to show them up, show them how it's done when did you pick up a guitar?

Speaker 1:

you said, you played bass, but you just played a guitar. What came first, bass or guitar?

Speaker 2:

bass so so, like I've been playing bass since 2000 wait, so I think it was 2009 I picked up a guitar for like two months and high school. But then I was like really good at bass because I liked the thick sound of it. But other than that, whenever I switched over, that's my first time picking back up guitar and I was like oh, instead of four, no, instead of five strings, I'm going to seven, added two more strings.

Speaker 1:

Who influenced you to pick up the bass man, especially the music we listen to?

Speaker 2:

um, cause you know, I originally wanted guitar, but the bass was all my parents could afford at the time. So I was like I'll do it, and then I just started doing like covers of bands. I like Guitar Tabs, baby, yeah, man. It helped me, it fueled me.

Speaker 1:

How did you come up with the idea of the social media? I mean, dude, I've known you more on social media than the Browning, believe it or not. When I was like when I I've known you more on social media than the Browning, believe it or not, when I found out that you were part of the Browning and you were coming into town, I was like what, what is this? How did I not know? Because you don't advertise that, you don't broadcast that. You broadcast, dude, you're, in my thought, an ambassador. But, dude, you brought it social media for me, for me from the start. So how did you come up with that? When did you know you had the knack to bring the world what you bring?

Speaker 2:

so uh, originally, so like in 2013, I was a vocalist of a band. I had my own local band and I did that for, I think, a year and a half, and then we split and then I still wanted to be a part of music, but I didn't know how. So I started the hardcore keem channel in 2018. So my original before reactions I was doing, uh, like street moshes. You know what I do like now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did.

Speaker 2:

I started that in 2018, which is which is my phone, so I would mix like a popular song, like I did like a Sweet Caroline with a band called like Grief, so like I would play Sweet Caroline and then it would go into like a breakdown. So I used to do that, I used to, I used to call, I used to call, I used to call it mosh the fat away Wednesday. I used to do it every Wednesday and then I started getting kicked out of establishments. So I was like, well, I got to switch it up. And then there was this reaction channel called F I think it was F Y M reacts. He doesn't do reaction reactions anymore, or he doesn't even have a channel anymore. So I was influenced by that and then I started doing reactions, and so I've been, did you know?

Speaker 1:

that you had facial features that people can't even get. Man, like you know, when your reaction dude, you just kill it with the reactions oh, no, never had anybody share the reactions that I do when it comes to a drop or a riff or a melody. It's just do you know you had it from the?

Speaker 2:

beginning. No, no, I didn't know I had it at all until I didn't know I I had it and people like liked it until I started posting on social media. Really, um, once I started doing the clips back in 2018, like just random clips on of my reactions that's when people was like, oh, snap his facial, cause. I used to be scared to to post because, um, when I first started I, I used to wear glasses cause I didn't want to. I first started I, I used to wear glasses because I didn't want to. I didn't want people to know my identity. Like it was, it was yeah, but uh, once people like found out and everything, I was like, ah, it is what it is. And then people started loving it. So I was like, ah, okay, I can, I can keep this going, I can do this as a little hobby yeah, yeah, yeah, and then nothing else.

Speaker 1:

man, nothing else hits if your reaction, you know, facial, uh reaction, don't get anybody the fact that you bring the dummy and you hit the dummy because you know you just want to hit that mosh so hard. You know, yeah, the dummy behind you, dude, that's when it connects, man, man, that's when I was just like, dude, sold, sold. This guy is bringing it.

Speaker 2:

The story behind Bobby was because I broke so many gaming chairs. I think I broke like six. Well, this is seven now because the arm is broken. I broke so many chairs that it got expensive. I was like I got to get something. So I think I was scrolling on like Facebook I think it was like Facebook Marketplace or something like that and I saw somebody had had one and then I was like, ah, someone's selling it for like $300. And I was like you know what, let me just make a status. And then so one of my old high school friends, I hit me up and be like, hey, my parents got one at their house, you could just take it. I was like sweet. And then once I started featuring like him, um, people loved it. And I was like, okay, yeah, he's, he's a staple of the channel now, yeah, yeah, and the chairs are expensive.

Speaker 1:

But you know, the things around Bobby get expensive too, are expensive. Do you ever break stuff because of Bobby?

Speaker 2:

I broke an outlet. At my old house. I broke a couple glasses. At my old house, I broke a couple glasses. I broke a display because he falls. We also had his cousin. His cousin's name was Billy. What did I break? I broke a couple of things. Yeah, it really does become expensive. All right, yeah it. Like it, it really does become yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's worth it, it's worth it. It's fun, it's so worth it that you're bringing your kids in your barber. That tripped me out, man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

How do you have this conversation when you bring up your barber, your old lady, you know just other people how do you have it?

Speaker 2:

You're like, hey, man, let's do this, or what. So so my barber is actually my best friend from like middle school. So he, he also listens to metal, so that that one just went hand in hand. So my, my wife, on the other hand, she's not a metalhead whatsoever, like, yeah, she supports me but she doesn't listen to metal whatsoever. But I kind of like, I kind of like that because I get a flavor for like everything. You know what I'm saying? So when I'm not in this realm and we're like just driving, she puts on like anything, like she, she likes rap, country, all that. So I like that, I love that because it's not her. Just you know, I'm like, all right, I already been listening to metal for two hours straight. Let's listen to more. And I'm like, no, I can't, I can't do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got you, I got, you got you gotta have a break and yeah, exactly, you gotta have a break why?

Speaker 1:

why metal, though man?

Speaker 2:

why metal?

Speaker 1:

why metal? Like, what got you into metal? What was that? That band that was like you know, I'm hooked, I'm, I'm solid, just by, you know, bringing metal to everybody, to myself. There was that one band devil's product for sure.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that was product like the my, like golden nugget, who like got me into all this, and it really just spiraled from there because, um, I used to think that like, oh, like, dang, they're like the heaviest band, and then I started listening to like oceano, like the crimson armada, and then it just opened the door and I'm like there's a lot of bands like this, like everybody's doing this, because you know, of course I listen to like Radio Rock and like Slipknot was on. I thought they were heavy as well.

Speaker 2:

I was like dang, this is some heavy stuff. But once I really started listening to music and like how it made me feel, then I'm like, okay, I can do this, I can, I can really dive into this.

Speaker 1:

This metal, this metal side, yeah, and it just I love it okay, speaking of oceano man, that guy is like, that guy's range is unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

Man, yeah, adam adam is he's, he's he's crazy.

Speaker 1:

All right, normally keep my my episodes clean, but I'm gonna ask you, man, do you normally raw dog your reactions or do you sample the songs before you make the reactions?

Speaker 2:

so, uh, I usually, if I sample it, it's like the first 15 to 30 seconds. And now I don't know if I like the song with the first 15 to 30 seconds. After that it's raw. I'm raw dogging it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, thanks for going along with it. All right, that's how I am, too, man Okay.

Speaker 2:

All right, yeah, because if you can't capture me within the first 15 seconds, I know I'm not going to like the rest of the song. You can't capture me within the first 15 seconds.

Speaker 1:

I know I'm not gonna like the rest of the song. What is it about capturing you? What? What is it that you know that it's like all right, they got it. I'm gonna keep listening to it. What's that 15 seconds man?

Speaker 2:

so it's. It's like. It's like uh, I can compare it to like watching a reel or like a tiktok, you know, you know if you're gonna like the video or not, you know if you're gonna to stay or not, within like the first five seconds. It's like the, the viewer retention. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so, if nothing pops out at me, if nothing's a catchy, if I don't hear like a catchy riff, or if there's not like a breakdown at the beginning, or if there's not like a line said within like the first 15, there, like a line said within like the first 15, there's like like I know, I know what the rest of the song is going to be like. So it's like ah, you know, it's like I don't really. I don't think I really really like this. That's why bands just stopped doing really long intros, like they'll do like a minute and a half of just like nothing. And I'm like ah, you know, but that's just, that's just my opinion.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha, do you? Did you ever think you would be this big on social media? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, not at all, not at all. This was, this was just supposed to be a hobby for me. It was just supposed to be something that I just kept myself busy. I never wanted to be a youtuber or anything like that. I just I like watching youtube, but I never thought I would be like, all right, you have to keep entertaining people. No, I didn't. I didn't want to. Yeah, I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to do this at all. But do you get?

Speaker 1:

do you get paid? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, yeah, yeah Now now this is my like full-time thing, which I I love it. I love it, enjoy it, because it's it's definitely open like doors for me. I met some great, amazing people, but originally, yeah, this was just supposed to be like a little, a little side thing, like it was supposed to be.

Speaker 1:

you know, that's, that's crazy man yeah, but then you bring people out of the woodworks man, whether they have a social media following or not, and then, you know, I see, I see the interaction. They tell you thank you, people pick up. They're like just using uh emojis, you know fire, fist pump and everything else.

Speaker 2:

And that's like my favorite part of it, because I feel that there's so many local bands out here where there's so many bands that has just been doing it, that has that's sitting on like gold and people don't realize it, so that's like my favorite. My favorite part is the smaller bands. That's why, like, a majority of my channel is like smaller bands, like ah, I'll do a couple of like larger scale bands here and there, but it's like small bands kind of sound better Gotcha.

Speaker 1:

You also been bringing it back too Back in, I guess in your middle school and high school. What brought that about, man?

Speaker 2:

middle school and high school day. What brought that about, man? Because that's, I feel that the myspace age, or like music 10, 10, 15 years ago, is way better than music now. It just has more raw emotion and it just sounds better like. It just sounds well put together now. Well then, then now. So that's why I always like to do like, like my like. Sometimes I'll do like a myspace stream or throwback thursdays and stuff like that you ever thought about bringing in the, the hardcore 80s and 90s man?

Speaker 2:

you said the hardcore 80s and 90s. Hey, if somebody sends me, send me that some music. I guess that's what it's like I'm, I'm, I'm blind until I see it, until I hear it. You know what I'm saying. I got you I got you all right.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned thirst. You know the backstory of thirst.

Speaker 2:

Like thirst, the band, yeah, yeah, like the florida band, yep, yep, no you shared.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, dude, that singer, she's an alum of the sausage castle. I don't know if you know that, but, dude, she's been in the metal into the metal world ever since man and she is hardcore. I follow her on snap, or I had followed her in snap, and dude, she's been trying to make it. And dude, thirst is uh, finally, yeah got what it takes.

Speaker 2:

Thirst is a good band like I didn't. I didn't uh know about them, I believe, until like last year. They're, they're really good, they're like really good. I'm glad like bands like that are coming out of florida for sure.

Speaker 1:

Shout out thirst baby right, shout out yeah, yeah, I've talked to her every now and then back in the days, I think, before you even came around 2018, you know. So, yeah, she's. She's one hell of a vocalist man. She brings it. She's hardcore chick man. So what's your favorite band? Man of all time, one favorite band?

Speaker 2:

So, if not Delworth's Prada Soul Keeper, for sure Soul Keeper. Okay, it's a band out of Minnesota. Okay, minnesota, minnesota.

Speaker 1:

Favorite song hard or soft man.

Speaker 2:

Harder song favorite. If I had okay, if I had one song to die with, it would be Soul Keeper Weakness right now.

Speaker 1:

What's the band you can't get enough of?

Speaker 2:

I can't get, I ain't gonna lie Peeling, flesh, peeling.

Speaker 1:

Flesh right now is that band.

Speaker 2:

I ain't gonna lie peeling flesh, yeah, peeling flesh right now. Is that band?

Speaker 1:

okay, if not metal, what is it?

Speaker 2:

rap.

Speaker 1:

For sure, rap okay for sure, number one on your playlist right now number one on my playlist. I'm curious, why'd you be like some Coco Melon stuff?

Speaker 2:

actually actually shout out to my kids. You know, um, oh, actually it's number one on my playlist right now is the color eight, savage season okay that's, yeah, that, that's obvious non-metal rap favorites non-metal rap favorites. Uh, of course, lately it's been kendrick, because he dropped, not like Us, and that's been really good. But then I've been listening to a lot of Morgan Wallen oh, you listen to that country so I've been listening to like Morgan Wallen Shaboosie oh man, you like poppy country yeah, I don't know it's been super.

Speaker 2:

It's been so catchy, maybe because it's been played a lot, but it's just been really catchy and I'm like, all right, I, I get it, I, I, I, I get it or like jelly roll. Like I get it, it is that is poppy country, ain't it? Yeah I would never expect the country be poppy, but look at the time we live in.

Speaker 1:

man it's all about the stuff that's not coming out from Nashville or Nashville popular dude, you know, it's the Americana is what they call nowadays. That's what you should be getting involved or listening to. Maybe I'll drop something, man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who are you listening to? What's a country artist that's not? That's really good. Or listening to Maybe I'll drop something, man, yeah, who are you listening to? What's a country artist that's not?

Speaker 1:

Dude, I love the Bakersfield honky-tonk, you know.

Speaker 2:

I like Florida Georgia line. Some old-school rascal flats Come on now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, nah, nah, I just saw Vincent Neil emerson last night. Um, I don't know who that is. Yeah, yeah, I'll send you a few, since you send me a few, or give me a few a day, okay, I'll send you a few maybe you can check out, because it's all about the lyrics.

Speaker 1:

Man and dude, a lot of the americana out there, they got that angst and it's not even angry. They don't even sound angry, they just the lyrics just flow. Yeah, dude, there's they're. They're talking the truth, you know? Okay, I'll send you some. I'll send you some, okay, yeah, but yeah yeah, let me check it out okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

And there's also, uh, I had, uh, marty bush. He's from Kansas city I don't know if you know him he's. He's a big baritone guy and it works, it works. You know, he was a electronic guitarist in a band ages ago, but he was torn with a bluegrass metal, death metal band. I'll check it. I'll send it your way, dude. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, I'll send them your way. That sounds cool, but he got me into that and I think you'll like that one too.

Speaker 2:

I gotta send you this band called Dragon Corps. They're like a power metal. They're like power metal mixed with metalcore. I got to send you them. Okay, it's like 80s power, it's like 80s core. Okay, I got to send you them.

Speaker 1:

They're good, they're really good too Favorite band to see live.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, I think recently it's been Body Snatcher. I don't know if you ever heard of them. They put on a show. They put on a show live. But I feel that it's between Body Snatcher and Victims. They're like both. Number one Victims live is John is a phenomenal vocalist. He's crazy live.

Speaker 1:

I was glad to see them with you guys, man, I was like you and the Victims. Man Hollow Front surprised me, you know, upon him burning the body.

Speaker 2:

The Texas sound is not my type. But dude Vict yeah victims is crazy live what do you?

Speaker 1:

what are your thoughts on knock loose, knock loose I like knock loose.

Speaker 2:

Okay, knock loose is I'm not. I'm not like big into them. I like some of their stuff for sure, but they're they're doing crazy numbers. They're like killing it right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I'll not loose okay, when's your album coming out, man?

Speaker 2:

I believe, like november, I think it's definitely in the later. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. Yeah, that far we're in what? Just june, or we're we're about to be in july. I know I know right, you know what I'll make it so we can drop it next month. Yeah, right, I'm pretty sure he's not going to like that. Yeah, I think like October, november, so one of those.

Speaker 1:

And to watch out, for that's not even big yet. That you know of, that's just you know tight.

Speaker 2:

That's like really high, because you put out a lot, you're tight.

Speaker 1:

That's like really high Um cause you put out a lot and I'm just like man yeah.

Speaker 2:

I've been really into this band from Florida Trash Panda, for sure Trash Panda. Trash Panda, trash Panda. I'll check it out. I'll check it out. You have to check out Trash Panda for sure Trash.

Speaker 1:

Panda Trash, panda Trash Panda. I'll check it out. I'll check it out.

Speaker 2:

You have to check out Trash Panda. I heard of them before and I heard their music, but the other day when I was listening to them, I'm like hold on. I was like this is people are going to really love this. That's why I was like yo, they have to start touring and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

They like really love this. That's why I was like yo, they have to start touring and stuff like that, they have to get on it. Okay, I'll check it out. Yeah, like your uh suggestions. Man, seriously, reactions right, how many reaction videos you put out a day? You put them out I put them out. Uh, one minimum, sometimes three yeah, yeah, which ones get the most response, man? Typically johnny wants like death core sludge typically death core.

Speaker 2:

For sure, death core and then Deathmetal. Yeah, if it's a genre that has Deathmetal in it, people really like that stuff too, but usually Deathcore bands.

Speaker 1:

Did I miss anything? Want to add anything?

Speaker 2:

Support your local scene, and then King oh yeah, you can support me if you want yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, king man, I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you having me on for your time, the friendship, the conversation at the small venue in Richland, washington. But most of all, man, I appreciate you educating the masses, dude, on the music, the bands out there that people don't even hear of. I enjoy it, the bands enjoy it. I know you're following. Love it Even more Keem. Thank you Until next time. Take, love it Even more Keem. Thank you Until next time. Take care and keep crushing the world, man.

Speaker 2:

All right, thank you. Thank you, man, appreciate it. We'll see you next time.