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Miles & Mountains
Jose Garcia: Ultra Running to Weightlifting
Listen to how a dedicated runner shifts gears and picks up a barbell? Join us as we catch up with Jose Garcia, who shares his transformative journey from ultra running to weightlifting. With a newborn on the way, Jose's life has been a whirlwind of change, and he opens up about how his "sabbatical" turned into a period of intense physical transformation. He talks his adventures, including a competitive ultra run with his girlfriend Melissa, and the fascinating changes in his training and eating habits.
Finally, we dive into the challenges of being a hybrid athlete, combining weightlifting with running. Get ready to bust some myths as Jose and our hosts discuss the misconception that you can't do both. Hear about the importance of hydration, especially when incorporating sauna sessions into the routine, and the temptations of unhealthy habits. The episode wraps up with personal stories, fitness goals, and the excitement of an expanding family. Don't miss this engaging and inspiring conversation that highlights the essence of resilience, dedication, and the power of supportive friendships.
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Jose Garcia, how are you?
Speaker 3:man. Good, how are you it's?
Speaker 2:been a minute. It's been a minute, man, it's been a minute. Dude, it's been what? Almost a year since I saw you at the Backyard Ultra.
Speaker 3:Yeah, back in September, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you know know you were gone, took a sabbatical yeah, not much of vacation though, dude, not much of vacation. But you know people knew because I, you know, speak highly of you and respect you and just wish the best. You know, I know you were going through some tough times and everything else, and uh was just waiting, dude like hey how's?
Speaker 1:it going, how's it going, how's it going and nothing flatline.
Speaker 2:And then I saw you at the backyard ultra and yeah, and then I was like whoa, dude, you're back. Yeah, you know I'm not your lady. Yeah, congrats you're expecting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm having a newborn soon.
Speaker 2:I'm here, with my girlfriend, there you go. No partner language in here, man Okay.
Speaker 3:So she's right here too, so she's coming up in 30 weeks. Want to say hi, hello, yeah.
Speaker 2:So shout out to Melissa Well, congrats guys, congrats Any day now. Is this your first yes, okay, any day now, any day, hopefully. Is this your first yes, okay, have fun, have fun. No, they change your world, you'll find out real quick. That's what I hear yeah, real quick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, humble, you too yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do Jeez, jeez.
Speaker 3:So, jose, yeah, Humble you too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they do Jeez, jeez, so Jose.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're on, man, because, dude, I've just been wanting you on. But, dude, like I want to talk about your regimen. When you left, man, when you had that sabbatical and you know you're all or nothing, dude, you're go big, go home or go home. You know you're all or nothing, dude, you're go big, go home or go home. You know, but, dude, you got big, like literally and figuratively, Dude, you got big overnight. And when you left and you were like man, I'm lifting weights, I'm like man, this guy, this guy is going to go big because you ain't going to be able to run, you ain't going to be able to do cardio, one of your cardio, uh, uh, on strava or whatever you had. Yeah, you had something and all you did was go on a square. For what? Uh?
Speaker 2:50k yeah and a fob dude. Yeah, she, uh, she did it too, so you did it too. Yeah, so what?
Speaker 3:happened is. So she melissa came up with the idea because she's an ultra runner too and she's done a lot of ultra runs and um uh, so she did it first, and then I I don't even know, I forgot what your time was. But then I was like I can beat that. Yeah, it was a good time. And so me and her got really competitive and so I did it and I'm like well, hey, I just want to do it because I beat you.
Speaker 1:You beat me by like 15 minutes.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I beat her by like 15 minutes, but I also hadn't run at all, since I had left, yeah, and run at all since, since, like, I have left, yeah. So I just wanted to see if, also, if I still could do it, and do it in, you know, 90 degree weather yeah yeah yeah, yeah, well, 90 degree weather, that's okay, you're used to it here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially the stuff that you were doing. I you know it's mental and pretty much muscle memory. But dude, muscle. Now, when I would say, go big or go home, dude, like when you said you're lifting the weights, I'm like, dude, this guy, since he ain't going to be doing cardio, he's going to be lifting the weights. And then, lo and behold, when you finally got onto social media, man, you're a different person, you're massive.
Speaker 3:That's what I hear.
Speaker 2:You're humble man and I know it sounds weird that you know some guys, like you know, saying dude, you're big Bro Jose. You used to be one person. Dude, you're double bro, you're double bro Jose. Like, do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Dude, yeah, I started lifting a lot of weights.
Speaker 2:That's an understatement. Okay, melissa, am I wrong? I see he's looking at you, you're looking at him and I'm just like dude this guy. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:No, when we met he was you're like 180 pounds and there's a. There's a picture of us at the beginning of deployment where we're like running around in a rainstorm pretty much, and they're like you're a lot smaller in that picture. And then you look at at even the videos from the end of deployment, it's like your eight-year-old self.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm telling you. So she said 180. What are you sitting right now? And just seriously, what do you? Because you don't look bad, dude, you look like you power lift.
Speaker 3:The last time I weighed myself was like a week ago and I was like 219 okay all right um, I ended up putting like 30 pounds when just like starting lifting and eating a lot of food yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:What's your intake right now? Caloric intake a day.
Speaker 3:Do you count? I don't, I just Just eat whatever I just if I'm hungry, I eat and I work out.
Speaker 2:Okay, what got you into that dude? I know freaking treadmills or dreadmills, they have them, they have a lot of them, but I know it sucks after a while. You can only do so much. So what made you go from miles to dude die hard lifting weights? Let's get big well what's that boredom?
Speaker 3:boredom was one of them. And then, um, since I wasn't able, I knew I wasn't gonna be able to run as much as I wanted to anymore. Um, I was honestly a good friend of mine um, I'll just use his full name, brady plunger. He's a good buddy of mine. He deployed with me and way younger dude than I was super athletic and he was just a really young 20-year-old trying to show me up, yeah, and he was in my team, and so me and him became we clicked right away and we became really good friends. And we became really good friends and so me and him started lifting a lot together and throughout the whole year that I was gone, me and him were always lifting, just going at it and pushing each other, yeah, and so, um, he was younger than me and so I was trying to keep up with him, yeah, um, as far as like lifting weights and cardio and everything, and so I was just trying to stay in shape really and trying to do something proactive and not Okay.
Speaker 2:Do you guys still talk? Talk regimen what?
Speaker 3:Um, me and him, do we still talk? Yeah, I just talked to him yesterday. He um he's working as a police officer right now in Montana. Okay, Um he just started. He has some. He has some wild stories, but we still talk as far as regimen.
Speaker 3:No, he, uh, we don't talk as much anymore. But I know when we our last talk to him yesterday, he was still working out a lot and he just asked me what I was doing and it's kind of like one of those things where we're just trying to like keep each other motivated did you ever think if you got into weights you know as much as you did it would?
Speaker 2:uh, your running would suffer uh because I remember talking to you. You said no, it's not gonna. But I'm like dude, it's a huge difference.
Speaker 3:You start lifting weights, man, it is tough to move it around yeah, I felt it a lot when I did that 50k that you were just talking about the ultra. Yeah, the ultra. Or no, not the backyard or the one in the fob, the one in the fob, yeah, at the base, because I was 30 pounds heavier, yeah, and I could feel, physically feel, that I was heavier. Yeah, and like every step just felt odd, right? Yeah, it just felt odd running, having it 30 extra pounds and running okay.
Speaker 2:So going from before you left, man, you go to altopia and just do your loop or your out and backs and everything else and you killed it right, even badger mountain 100. You killed it right prior to you leaving. Did you ever think, oh, I did too much. Did you ever think that you know you're never going to go back into running like you did?
Speaker 3:No, I never thought that I wasn't going to go back into running. I just knew it was going to be an adjustment. Adjustment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was going to be an adjustment. Adjustment, yeah, because now I don't know what happened over there, but my knees are kind of messed up now, and so now I feel like every morning when I wake up my knees are just messed up, snap, crackle, pop, yeah, and it could have been from working or working out in the gym or I don't know, yeah, but now my knees are just not the same, and it could be age too, I guess, but I'm only 30.
Speaker 2:Right, and so Well dude, you got an upper body, bro. Yeah, it's stacked man. People are going to listen to this and be like dude, nick, just shush man. But dude, you are a total different person man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean even like touching it right now, like my knee, like it hurts. Is it the cartilage?
Speaker 2:Or lack thereof.
Speaker 3:In between, like in the middle of the knee, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So you probably don't have any.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I've also had a lot of injuries in the past that I just never did anything about it, so it could just be you the past that I just never, yeah, did anything about it. So it could just be you're getting them looked at. No, uh, and here you are thinking about going ocs, is that still up there? Are you gonna do it, man?
Speaker 3:yeah, I've been um, so I'm doing it through the guard and so, yeah, it's every month and so, yeah, I'm still doing it, and so, part of the process, I don't I don't want to right now, I don't want to say what my, that I have injuries, because then I'll disqualify exactly okay. So as long as it's not too, as long as it doesn't get too serious, then I'll I'll just stay quiet, but if it gets, to the point where it's like, because I still work out, I still run right and it's fine.
Speaker 3:it's like the, the pre-warm up, where I'm like oh, this sucks, yeah, so you gotta warm up.
Speaker 2:You gotta warm up. Yeah, welcome to old age man. Alright, so it's a weekend thing still.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's a.
Speaker 2:You're not going to like Jackson, or what is it now?
Speaker 3:Where am I going? North Dakota, North Dakota oh okay, we're in North Dakota this summer. Okay, Because it's to the guard. It's like a year-long process.
Speaker 2:Okay, so they don't stick you with active OCS.
Speaker 3:You can. You can apply for it, but I was told that it's a numbers thing. Oh, okay, they have to have a certain number of guard people in the schoolhouse and right now they don't have enough. Like we have three people quit already. Oh wow, and so I'm one of the oldest there, okay. And so they were like hey, this is what they told me. They were like, hey, like you're the most experienced guy we have and we don't want to lose you.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And so I was asking them to go the federal way, which was the fast track, the active duty way, yep, and they basically said it's a numbers thing, you're the most experienced guy here and we don't want to lose you.
Speaker 2:Did they throw a bunch of money at you?
Speaker 3:No, I wish. I mean. So we're there as volunteers. You know we were volunteers to do this and so, yeah, I'm just doing the process, but numbers do.
Speaker 2:They see you as a number. You can see that as a number.
Speaker 3:I mean it only works one way in the military.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I know I know, I mean you know. Yeah, yeah. So when you do do that right, you're going to go active.
Speaker 3:No, can you go active? I mean I can, I can go active, but just the way my family situation and life is going on right now, there's no chance or, yeah, there's no way I can make that work. Okay, yeah, so it'll be in the reserve guard side of things, okay, and happy. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, melissa, you still in.
Speaker 1:Am. I so what Still in?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:She has bigger plans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, all right, we won't talk about it though, all right, man. Number one question. I've talked to you before, natty. Is that natural? Yeah, it's natural.
Speaker 3:Natural.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you only ate one meal a day?
Speaker 3:So, yeah, we were in different countries and so when we got to Syria, we were in a smaller base with smaller people.
Speaker 2:MREs no, no.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:There was a market there and there was there was a defect there a military.
Speaker 2:A good one. No, you're like no and she's like no. We were in different parts.
Speaker 3:I was in. I was in Northern Syria, close, closest to the border, and she was in. I was more like Southeast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was more like.
Speaker 3:Southeast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Southeastern Syria, and so she was in a different base than I was.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Hers was a lot more ghetto, oh yeah, than mine, ours. When we left, they were trying to turn it into an actual like a base. Oh okay and so, but the one she was at it was, I don't know what to call it. Right, she knows what to call it.
Speaker 2:She knows what to call it. Yeah, I got you a shithole yeah, it's okay what she, yeah, yeah, what she said, yeah yeah, okay, but when you ate, did you stick to a certain meal or a substance like um?
Speaker 3:so I mean you could order food and I had and prior to us leaving going to Syria, we shipped Me and my buddy Brady, we shipped a bunch of food there so that we could have food there. And then I also had my family send over food like protein powders and-.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, like stuff that you're going to miss? Yeah, but then over there if you wanted to eat actual meals, you either had to cook it yourself or just buy it from the market or the cafeteria. Okay, but it wasn't great, and certain hours you could only order between certain hours. Gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's one cafeteria trying to feed.
Speaker 3:However, many soldiers there are there, and then if you're working, sometimes you only have time to eat just once. You don't gotcha, and so sometimes I, only I would only eat once so so, when you majority of your meals consisted of what? Uh, chicken rice, and uh, what do they?
Speaker 2:call it the tort like tortilla. Those things are good, man, especially over there. Pretty much stick to what doesn't make you sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Once I found what didn't make me sick because it's like locals cooking the food then I just stuck to that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:It was basically chicken and rice.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right?
Speaker 2:Do you think you'll ever go back to running like you were?
Speaker 3:That's what I'm trying to do right now. Yeah, I've been slowly trying to get back into running. When I first started, I remember when I talked to you I was like I haven't run like five miles.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like I don't know I forgot what I said to you, but I just started running again in December, december, and I've been like slowly and slowly, just trying to progress.
Speaker 2:And you're still lifting.
Speaker 3:And I'm still lifting as heavy as you were. Yeah, well, heavier Okay.
Speaker 2:Heavier now. So you're a hybrid athlete now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess I athlete now.
Speaker 2:Um like, yeah, I guess. No, you are. You are um certain people can pull that off. Dude, not a lot of people can pull it off.
Speaker 3:It's, it's. It's been a challenge I've um, it's hard to try to lift hard and then go for a run. Yeah, and vice versa, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you think that will get in the way.
Speaker 3:It's in the way now. Yeah, I mean it's just the time management, and then life gets busy and kids get busy and work, so you just have to make time for it.
Speaker 2:So give me a workout man that you do on a regular basis. Let's say, lift and run. What? What do you do for how long in the gym and then going for a run? How? How long is your run? Like a 5k, five miles?
Speaker 3:yeah, right now I'm running like three, four times a week and like I'm trying to keep the same regimen that I did before deployment Like I would run like three, four times a week On the weekends, I would do a long run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would do more runs, though this guy was an animal.
Speaker 3:This guy was an animal. I was running every day, yeah, like seven, ten miles a day, but I mean that was a while ago and I'm trying to build back to something that's sustainable with trying to also lift weights. But yeah, like I said, right now I'm running like three, four times a week and same with lifting in the gym for like an hour and a half. Two hours are the longest.
Speaker 2:If you had to pick, which one do you like the most man?
Speaker 3:So I've always lifted. I lifted a lot in high school.
Speaker 2:I did too In college, man, and it's taken me years just to get the broad shoulders out and out of the way For real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I lifted a lot in high school. I did powerlifting. I almost went to a competition in high school for lifting, for powerlifting, but then I just stopped because I got into ultra running. And the myth was that you couldn't do both Stuff.
Speaker 2:Stuff.
Speaker 3:The myth was like if you lift a lot then you can't run. Like that was the myth back then and now it's the other way. It's like it actually helps you with your running if you're lifting and running, yeah, but you know, but I'm trying to maintain the same muscle mass and and that's hard it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, do you got caloric intake? I mean you got to make sure things work in between the joints and stuff like that, man god yeah, and I'm not doing it the right way at all.
Speaker 3:I don't think I'm just. I'm just she's like when's the last time you drank water?
Speaker 2:and I'm like I don't know what you're not drinking water, what are you drinking, and so?
Speaker 3:uh soda pop, uh juice okay drink some more water, man. It's the season soon, dude, you don't want to do this yeah, and then because, like the other day, I went to the because I I go to the gym and then I'll go to the sauna after the gym and it gets to like 200 in there and and I was like wasn't feeling well that night and she said, well, did you have any water? I was like, no, I haven't had any water today. And it was. And I've always been that way though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even when I was running a lot of ultras, I that was the hardest part was to drink water yeah, yeah, I find myself doing that too, especially like a, you know, after a run in the heat or in the cold and whatever man, I always make sure if I don't have to drink water, I don't, I don't have to drink water but man, I have to like force it down the throats, man.
Speaker 2:And so, like my go-to is seven up the safe bet, let's say like the safest bet, you know, and then Coke Zero dude that's, that's legit man. That's legit stuff.
Speaker 3:I like it yeah, and it didn't I also. When I was gone to the poem, I picked up smoking and chugging a little bit. Oh, you did oh gosh no, I haven't. I haven't smoked since you're gonna have like cigar night every now and then.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, no, I haven't smoked since.
Speaker 3:I would have like cigar night every now and then. Yeah, and then I would smoke with the locals. I would smoke with them sometimes.
Speaker 2:Some good stuff, good tobacco, over there.
Speaker 3:It was just like it's different.
Speaker 1:Cigars would get sent to us from.
Speaker 3:Cigars for warriors. Yeah, cigars for warriors.
Speaker 1:So like if you applied to that program they would send you like a big bag of cigars.
Speaker 2:Okay, dang, but you hit up Dip. Oh man, do you Zen now? Well, it wasn't, it was both actually.
Speaker 3:No, I don't do any of that now. I don't do any of that now. I stopped like, yeah, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, I did have a cigar a couple weeks ago, yeah.
Speaker 2:But let's just Every now and then it's good. Yeah, Every now and then when you're just relaxing and just wanting to taste it. Yeah, yeah, relax, yeah. So what you been doing, man, since you've been back Making babies, hanging with the lady working, yeah, all that.
Speaker 3:And then I have two other girls and so I'm spending time with them as well, but that's basically it and just trying to figure out what's my next steps. What is your next step?
Speaker 2:Have you thought of it? You don't have to. What is your next step? Have you thought of it? You don't have to say it now, but like, have you thought of it?
Speaker 3:and as far as, um running goes just yes, the active lifestyle yes running. Uh, yeah, we I want to do um. So my first ultra will probably just be in, like the summer sometime, by myself, and then I'll probably do Jason's backyard ultra in September.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The sole survivor.
Speaker 3:But yeah, the sole survivor one, Because he always puts up good races, yeah, and, but I probably won't go as hard because what I really want to do is, at the end of the September there's a 50 miler in East and like it's like clealum area oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called like ultra fest, something.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's a 50 miler and it's like super flat, it's a really flat course. It's not the yeti, is it? No, no, it's called. They renamed this. It's called ultra fest. Now it was called something. It was was called Super Series, something, okay, and now it's called Ultra Fest. Okay, and it's an ultra sign up. And you're going to do it fast. No, no, no, my goal is just to finish it, yeah.
Speaker 3:And so that's what I want to do as far as running goes and at the same time, try to keep lifting as much as I can.
Speaker 2:When do you think we can go back out there and do an adventure Not a Prosser to my house adventure, but something you know.
Speaker 3:Just out there we can do something smaller, for sure, yeah yeah, yeah, I'm trying to go to McBee now as much as I can. I hate that place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hate it. Have you hit the roads out in the back back of McBee? Yeah?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's beautiful back there, dude. Yeah, we should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, I love it back there, man, I never thought I'd like flat, but that's the flat I can take, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had my first welcome back to Ultra because I did a long run at McBee and I was texting her. I was like I think I'm having the running shits.
Speaker 2:Dude McBee, always Everybody. I know man, yeah, you get the shits, dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I don't know whether there's not a. Anyways, I don't know whether there's not a porta potty there, but I was texting her and I was like, well, I don't know what to do, use your sock, sock. And so, luckily, I was just doing loops, yeah, and I found it's not. I don't recommend any of this to do, but it was. What are they called? Like those car cleaning wipes?
Speaker 2:yeah, they used to clean your car oh my god, and so I went in there With armor all on, yeah, oh.
Speaker 3:So I used that and I was like, well, we'll see what happens and I'm fine. No hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that armor all will take care of that.
Speaker 3:So that was like my. I started laughing because I was like oh, I forgot what this was like All right.
Speaker 2:Well, welcome back, man Jeez, man, Jeez, Dude. It's wild to have you on. Man, it is dude, it is man. I appreciate you being on Well.
Speaker 3:thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:I mean, you were on what 30-something, and then 60, I think, and then I think you did a guest one with Hector, right? No, we were supposed to do one with Hector.
Speaker 3:No, you did that one with Hector after a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He gave me a shout out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's going to do Cocodona and I want him back on.
Speaker 3:Well, he's doing it this year too. Yeah he's doing it in a couple days, yeah. And his buddy a couple of his buddies are going to do it with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's going to have pacers. Yeah, so you're part of the gang, man. So I'm just saying, dude, like you're the OG, and dude, you're representing man and you're finally back, and dude, I just can't believe it, man, yeah.
Speaker 3:I can't believe it. Yeah Well, I was texting when I was gone.
Speaker 2:I would text with Justin a lot, uh, okay, and I would ask him like, like, how are you? Because he lives a lot.
Speaker 3:Oh, you seen that what he did in uh, over in europe, yeah, he's tearing it up, yeah, lifting those stones. Yeah, and how much he lifts and still runs, dude, crazy amount, crazy amounts you know, I met him right in person.
Speaker 2:no, he's massive, Dude is massive, he's tall right, he's massive, Nicest big guy I've ever met dude. I met him in Ben man. We had coffee and stuff and man, it was dude he's yeah that's awesome Dude one hell of a guy man.
Speaker 3:I haven't talked to him in a while, but I texted him on Instagram before deployment ended. I was like, hey, this is what I want to do Basically not exactly what he's doing, but I want to try to be a lifter and a runner. And he gave me some pointers. But I mean, it's time consuming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is man, and seeing his transition, when he lifts, he lifts. He never broadcasts how much he runs until he starts running, but then when he starts running, that's all he talks about is run, and then when he goes back to lift, you don't hear anything about running, you just hear about lifting. So, yeah, there's a thing, man, and I don't know man, I've tried, tried, like the winter time, I start lifting, but I always run, you know, but I, it's just like the moment I start lifting, the moment I start feeling like, dude, I need to run, I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna lose it, you know, and so it's difficult, man, but hopefully, hopefully, you find that balance, man, and found it hopefully.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and our lives are going to get busier, yeah that baby's going to change. That's going to be a priority. Obviously You're going to gain baby weight.
Speaker 1:You can gain all the money, right. Whatever, you're so tiny, I don't feel tiny.
Speaker 2:For 38 weeks yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, and we've talked me and Melissa have talked about doing old just together too. That's awesome man. She loves cycling, so she's cause, she's cycled the whole state of Idaho. Okay, before as well. Yep, north and south. Okay, north to south. Right, how right? How long do that?
Speaker 2:well, you can talk about that six days six days, yeah, nice, okay, geez, all right, man, it's crazy. It's crazy and I need to get you on, just by yourself, yeah you should yeah, jose dude, you're done, you're done. You're og bro, i're OG bro.
Speaker 3:I already know about you, man, I already know about you.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I'm just, I got lucky because we met in deployment. Yeah, we didn't know each other at all, even though she just grew up just down the road near Walla, walla, okay, and now she's my best friend. Best friend, yeah, and pregnant, right, jeez. And so that's what I plan to do is, by the end of the year I want to do that 50-modeler, and then my thought process is if I do it, then I can do the Badger with Jason for the 100 and see what happens. Because while I was gone I qualified for um hurt 100, yeah. But when I got back and I did that um uh, soul survivor, yeah, I was like I'm not ready, yeah, for that. And I remember telling her I was like I cannot, I can't do it what?
Speaker 2:what made you do that? I know you the backyards, I know you the backyards, I know you love the backyards. That's how we met right. But for doing not so much cardio and then coming back and then let's go do backyard ultra every hour. You got to do for 4.2 miles.
Speaker 3:What made me do that when I got back, yeah, Was it a dare Like I got back from that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was. Was it a dare Like? Did you dare yourself? No, it just sounded fun Not doing cardio Dude, but you know the regimen man, you know what it takes On the hour. Every hour you got to do 4.2 miles in an hour. Yeah, it's not easy, it's not, and you found out the hard way.
Speaker 3:And I found out the hard way because I only well, I did a 50K, but even though it didn't count because I didn't finish that last lap, but I still did a 50K Right, because that was my whole goal was like I'm going to do at least a 50K.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I hadn't trained up to it. Well, we did a 15-miler the weekend before in Walla Walla and they still joke about it she still does because in the middle of the run they had Red Bull Saturday Station, which was interesting. I've never seen that. And so I chugged one, oh man, because I didn't drink any water before that or the week or that week, and that was the only fluids I had. So I just chugged it and kept going did it save you? It? Did it for a while and then until the run ended, and I just I didn't. I felt like crap by the end of the run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about mountains? Man, man, mountains, yeah, going to hit any.
Speaker 3:Well I want to do. We tried when we got back from the appointment. We tried to do Asgard Pass Again.
Speaker 1:But we started way too late.
Speaker 3:We started yeah, we started the hike way too late in the day. Yeah, and the goal was just to go up and down.
Speaker 2:You were going to go down that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, after you. Well, when we went and it was late August, so there was no snow.
Speaker 2:No snow, but that's bad too.
Speaker 3:Well, I figured it would be easier.
Speaker 2:Scree is not easier, man, it was be easier. Scree is not easier, man. Did you not see the the terrain when we went with there? There was snow and then there were scree, there was rocks and then snow, scree, yeah and uh.
Speaker 1:So we didn't even make it like halfway and we were like we're not gonna make it yeah, we made it to the lake and then we made it up part of the pass and then, yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, we made it to the lake and then we made it up part of the pass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, we made it. We didn't even make it halfway to Asgard Pass because it has those fake summits, Yep, and I knew there was going to be a fake summit. I was like I don't even think we're halfway and Melissa just called us. She's like we should probably go back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like yeah, you're probably right. You tell her about our adventure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she knows all about it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was great.
Speaker 3:It's like probably one of my favorite adventures I've ever had. Yeah, but I would like to do something different. I just felt like I'm not experienced enough to to do like hood or or you know, like you've done hood, yeah, um, good times. It would be fun to do something like that okay, it's cold, man cold.
Speaker 2:You done hood.
Speaker 1:Uh no, you've done bora um I um I have done bora, and then I uh hiked to the uh top of the tallest mountain in Arizona.
Speaker 2:Okay, humphreys, humphreys.
Speaker 1:Peak, and then the highest peak in the Bitterroot Mountain Range.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Trapper Peak.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did that one by myself. That one was fun.
Speaker 2:All right, man. Who's this lady? Yeah, you should have her on. Yeah, need to.
Speaker 3:So she's more experienced than I am when it comes to climbing, I'm just a runner and I can yeah be. I'm just, I can just throw weight around and that's and that's all uh, you're more than that man, you're more than that dude, you're more than that um but and so yeah, that's for now, that's the goal for, as far as you know, running and athletics go.
Speaker 2:So another through hike. You thinking about a through hike at the Enchantments.
Speaker 3:I would like to do that this summer. I applied for that the lottery but I didn't get it.
Speaker 2:No, so you just go all out, like we did last time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so I'll probably do that. But I want to do it because when we did in the winter it was beautiful but, yeah, I've never seen it when there's no snow, so it would have to be till like august, september I think it would be tougher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'll be. It'll be tough. It'll be tough to do um with less snow. Yeah, because we got away with a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, that it was fun, but it was so much snow, yeah, and, and the water up there is just like I've told everybody how beautiful it is and how clear yeah yeah, um, but I want to see what it looks like without the snow. Okay, if there's ever no there, there's, there's.
Speaker 2:That's the cool, I thought.
Speaker 3:I've seen pictures on what's it called Ultra trails, or all trails, all trails, I thought. I've seen pictures where there's when there's no snow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a certain time period, but that's when all the bugs are out and that's when all that's busier.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I don't like. Yeah, cause I don't like it? Yeah, because we and you got lucky too. We got there just in time to go right.
Speaker 2:Somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, serious Jeez man.
Speaker 3:It feels like it was just yesterday man, I know, but Prosser to Pasco or Richland, maybe next year.
Speaker 2:Oh, you want to do that again, dude, I'm going to do. I was telling the wife I'm want to do that again, dude, I'm gonna do. I was telling the wife I'm gonna do an adventure this weekend. I've been doing a lot of those um because there's back roads.
Speaker 3:You can do like pasco to walla walla.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that way you don't have to do them in the main highway. I did the burbank to press prescott. I've done that. I was gonna do date. I was gonna go to Dayton but I didn't finish. I wanted to, but I didn't.
Speaker 3:How far is that?
Speaker 2:55 miles. Oh wow, I did it last Thanksgiving. Oh wow, that Friday by yourself, no, with Dan, oh, okay. And so, yeah, we went to Prescott. I was like okay, we're done, because he wasn't feeling so good and it was just like, dude, it's gonna take forever I haven't met him right. Yeah, no, no, no, ben you met Ben?
Speaker 3:no, I know I bet yeah, but I couldn't remember if I haven't no, I've heard a lot about him, though he seems like a cool guy yeah, very cool guy.
Speaker 2:and then, uh, I think this Saturday I think I'm gonna run to Harveston from my house. Okay, how far is that 33. It's uphill a bit and then all downhill. Man, that uphill sucks.
Speaker 3:I could probably do 20 miles right now, but I'd be pushing it. Tell me, man.
Speaker 2:I've been running from my house to other things because I've been so bored lately that I'll go from my house to other things. Because I've been so bored lately that I'll go from my house to somewhere and you know, I have my wife or my daughter pick me up, since she's driving age now. And so, like before Run with the Goats that weekend, I was like, hey, I'm just going to go run, good pizza. So I ran from here to Bombing Range, oh nice. And then the following week I did uh run with the goats. I didn't finish because I didn't want to. And then, um, just just recently, this past weekend, I uh ran the twilight 12 hour.
Speaker 3:I was I was just killed to ask you about that.
Speaker 2:Killed it, killed it. I'll kill it again next year, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 2:I've only seen it, it's a loop, it's a loop man, a 2.3-mile loop, and you know. To put things in perspective, Ben brought up a good point that the 50-miler in Badger has 7,000 feet of elevation. Right Gain, the 50-mile in Badger has 7,000 feet of elevation gain.
Speaker 2:The 50-mile does. The 50-mile does have 7,000. This when you're doing 30, you're doing 50K, it's 6,000. Oh wow. So it's a small loop and it's very deceiving. It's probably the toughest 50K anybody does. People that run it they're like oh yeah, we're going to get loopy. Dude, it's very deceiving. It's probably the toughest 50k anybody done. Has any anybody does. Yeah, people that run it. They're like oh yeah, we're gonna get loopy dude it's very deceiving and uh tough yeah, gretchen. Gretchen does a good job at uh telling people yeah let's get loopy.
Speaker 2:and dude, she kicks your ass, man, her and jason, dude, one of the you of the best race directors around. Dude, they're brutal, they are brutal.
Speaker 3:I've only ever seen that one advertised. I've never Twilight. Yeah, I've never actually signed up for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a low-key one, but, dude, she's good at what she does. I thought that one was just for females.
Speaker 3:That's the one in Walla Walla. Oh, okay, this, uh, what is it? The golden? The gold something, yeah, something totally different than yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever seen it then yeah, the hamster, the hamster, the 32 hour hamster, one is pretty good, that's in, uh, bellingham. Okay, that that one's fun, dude, but man, but man, I destroyed my feet because it's like road and gravel and the gravel dude after a while. When you hit 60 miles, dude, that gravel, it was brutal on your feet. I had a whole blister underneath my feet. Man, both feet dude.
Speaker 3:That sucked. How far did you get on Badger this year? Not far, not far. No, what happened? Just didn't want to do it. You didn't mind sharing.
Speaker 2:I just didn't want to finish. It was just one of those things. It was like dude Badger 100. I'll probably never do it again. Probably never do it again. I'm done, honestly. I'm done running races around here, man.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We're not doing the one in May, then that Jason puts up that goes from Benton City to Richland. Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I'll probably help out. I'll help out, but that's the only one I donate my time on, and stuff Other than that jump off. Joe, I'm done with the out and backs dude the out and backs man.
Speaker 3:She hates out and backs I. I don't.
Speaker 2:I prefer them yeah, I hate it, dude. Have you run with the goats yet? I've never, I've never do that and then talk to me, I've never signed up for it.
Speaker 3:But you also have to chug a beer, right, right.
Speaker 2:Every loop of the line man, I did sober.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been sober man, oh that's right, because you can do sober light or full on. I did sober man.
Speaker 2:It took me three days just to get all that sugar out of my system, dude, it was gross. I felt disgusting, dude, but can it be sparkling water? Okay, sober, yeah, but still, you still have to chug it. Yeah, well, you don't have to chug it like, you can sit, you can take your time, but you know time yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:How many people actually that chugged like the full beer finish?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but all I know is that there's out of the sobers, I think there was 14 or 15 people who signed up. Only four finished. Oh, wow, yeah, it's brutal man. It was getting hot too, and man, I was drinking water.
Speaker 2:I was drinking water and it just felt nasty, man, because you know you go down this hill and then you have to go up a hill and as you're going down, it's not the sturdiest terrain and you're just like burping it up, you know, and it just it's not pleasant. It's not pleasant man, it's a it's a different ball game, jason and his stupid ideas, you know, just like your stupid idea that you want to do 12, 12 hours of McBee yeah, so I had well, not 12 hours. 12 loops, 12 loops yeah, totally different. Because loops, when you say loops, is it out to chandler and back?
Speaker 3:no, just like that four mile loop for okay, like the one, you climb up and then just come back down the single grade yeah, and it's like 4.2.
Speaker 3:I want to say yeah, so 12, so it had to be 12 loops if you want a 50 mile, and I had this idea before the point, before I left. Yeah, oh, I know and I've been, I've been, she looked into it what we need to do. But I also want to pick Jason's brain about like cause I want, we would want to, we and her, we and her want to run it. Do this next year.
Speaker 2:But I also noticed that there's a time of year where those weeds are just way too crazy and you can't run through there, unless somebody goes through there and you've gone through it lately. Yeah, I just went. That fire man took care of a lot. Yeah, it's growing pretty quick. But um, over the uh before badger, somebody was clearing out that single grade. It's almost like a double grade now well then, my goal was to.
Speaker 3:My idea was to do it in the summer, like at noon when it's like 100 degrees. But then she brought up a good point. She said well, what about fire season? If there's a fire, you probably gonna have to cancel it yeah, it's like yeah, that's true, but in a perfect world I would want it to be like like in july, middle july, when it's heat and there's no shade out there, and see who. Who finishes it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm fine did you uh you're gonna be the first one that signs up, actually, you and ben ben yeah, ben man, dude, ben's like that he's.
Speaker 2:He's trying to get me to do uh another. Jason, jason Heinemann's uh 88, the uh, you know Everest. You do a hundred. Uh, what is it? A hundred, it's on the back end of badger, but you do a hundred of uh up and downs and you get the whole 29 000 feet. It's up and down, dude, for a hundred times.
Speaker 3:It's crazy nuts she's even smiling about it the downs will kill you, dude.
Speaker 2:The downs will kill you more. And just like I don't know, but ben's trying to get me to do that. He's like you should do it, man. Let's either do annapurna or everest. I'm like dude, you got 24 me to do that. He's like you should do it, man. Let's either do Annapurna or Everest. I'm like dude, you got 24 hours to do 100 up and downs. He's been looking really good.
Speaker 3:Who Ben Ben, yeah, ben Running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Ben was good man.
Speaker 3:I was shocked that he I don't know what happened, I haven't talked to him about it but he didn't finish Badger. But I know he tried really hard. Dude, it's tough. It was tough Because I was there volunteering and the weather sucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and.
Speaker 3:I was like oh my gosh yeah at night. I felt like when I did mine I got lucky. Yeah, like the weather was perfect. Other than it got hot for a little bit, liz, are you okay? Yeah, other than it got hot for a little bit, are you okay?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I was just making sure. If you're uncomfortable, just let me know my hands are really swollen from being pregnant. Yeah, it just gets uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:I'm fine now.
Speaker 2:Just let me know here to help. Yeah, I don't know, man, it's the out and backs. Yeah, out and backs around here. I wish it was more loops than out and backs. And uh, yeah, man, I would rather spend my money elsewhere than yeah, then do the out and backs and just like, okay, here we go. You know, jump off joe, yeah, out a little bit back, then out and all the way back. You know, I just, I think that's the challenging, fun part about.
Speaker 3:It is like because when you're done with badger, like the 50 mile letter, and you get done like around seven or eight or whatever, yeah, yeah night and you're like I gotta go back and do that again yeah it's like a mind you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's it messes with you yeah, it's a mind, it's a whole mind. Fuck yeah. And you're like dude, I did it this time at this at you know this rate. Am I gonna do it at that rate this time around? No, and so that gets in your head and you're like, okay, well, I just went down candy, the backside of candy, which is deceiving and hurtful, you know, and like, do you have to go up that one more time?
Speaker 3:no, it was a really fun volunteer and I've never volunteered for a race yeah and it was. It was fun just seeing all the people hurt all the runners hurt and like some guy like sat down for like five minutes, got up, threw up and he's like all right, I'm good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go Some guy.
Speaker 3:Did you see the guy running Crocs? Yeah, yeah, he ran the whole thing in Crocs. Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 2:I took a picture of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause she didn't believe me. I was like this guy's, get Crocs to sponsor you, yeah he probably does. Like you need some tougher Crocs for your beat. Dude serious.
Speaker 2:I don't know how he does it, man.
Speaker 3:And I didn't catch his name but I was like, wow, this is awesome.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine doing them Crocs? No, Crocs. The bottoms are soft, dude, yeah, yeah especially doing like mcbee or doing the jeep trails and those things like with all that sand getting in there, I was like how the heck are you? Well, do you see that guy that had just uh little sandals?
Speaker 3:yes, barefoot sandal. Yeah, dude, I saw that I was like more power too.
Speaker 2:He's like more power to you. I'm like dude, no, like there is no padding whatsoever it was interesting and fun.
Speaker 3:And then I was like I don't know if I'm ever gonna be able to do this again yeah, dude, I'm, yeah, it's a tough race it's a pretty tough race. What? Because it's like 60 percent that people drop out no, yeah, that it's, it's high it's like really high, yeah, and I don't know.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's luck because you have the weather playing against you yep, and that's why there's so many people that uh buy or purchase, uh registration late, like that week. They're like, okay, is it gonna be nice or is it gonna be shitty? It's gonna be nice or shitty. Yeah, it's like it was nice, but then it was shitty.
Speaker 3:At night there was a rain. Yeah yeah, there was people saying they couldn't. Even when they were going up they couldn't see in front of them. Oh yeah, because of the fog it was so much fog they couldn't even see their hand. Wouldn't surprise me, wouldn't surprise me. But but it was fun volunteering. I would like to volunteer more. I really want to volunteer at the Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:Okay, that would be fun. Talk to Ben. He's doing, he's doing, he's been doing he did.
Speaker 1:Moab volunteered for.
Speaker 2:Moab and he's doing Tahoe and I think he might be doing Bigfoot, I'm not sure he loves that stuff, dude, but he's training to do one of those, right yeah? Yeah and yeah, I pushed back my Cocodona Were you going to do the 250?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to do it this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to do it, but I'm going to do a few more 24-hour, 48-hour races. Which one was it? What do you have next? What do I have next? I signed up for another 12.
Speaker 3:12 hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, another 12-hour. It's in Monroe. I think that's my next one. Then I got like three back-to-back-to-back in late summer, early fall, before cross-country season. Oh that's right, because you're still coaching. Yeah, late summer, early fall, before cross country season oh that's right Cause you're still coaching. Yeah, yeah, oh, but the big one is across across the year down in Arizona, right before new year's and yeah she, her sister.
Speaker 3:She has a sister that also does ultras and her last one was a 50 and in November, but what's it called? It was a part in Nevada In November, in November, but what's it called?
Speaker 1:It was part of the Mad Moose race series.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And she did the dead horse she did the 50 mile in Moab.
Speaker 3:Okay, and that one looked really fun when.
Speaker 2:I saw the pictures.
Speaker 3:It looked like the scenery was really beautiful. That would be cool. Now they're doing $300. Now Did you?
Speaker 2:see that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Candice came out with a $300 in Arizona $300?.
Speaker 2:You see the price tag on that. Yes, it's a lot better than the Cocodona, but jeez yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know $300. Well, even Bigfoot is like $1,200 or something right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 1200 or something, right, yeah, it's, it's expensive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like yeah, it's 16, I think 16, but but I think that's the beauty of like you can volunteer and like I don't know how that works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, get credit, get credit, and that's what Ben has done.
Speaker 3:So you can tell they're giving you like the stuff to use from the last last, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, only the best for camp you get the pack and like oh, this is expired yeah you know, yeah, that's why I don't do that.
Speaker 2:I'll bring my own candy or scratch. Yeah, scratch is good. Have you had that? It's better, better and health like kind of healthier. But yeah, people live by it and ever since I uh heard from you know people do I used tailwind a lot. Tell one, yeah, tell one and scratch. Man scratches the next thing. Dude, check it out.
Speaker 3:But yeah, when, and is it called noon? I think it was called oh, noon, yeah, yeah that because they sell it in those. Caffeine yeah, and I used the heck out of those at Badger. I think I finished two of those bottles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's salt, but by the end of it.
Speaker 3:It was just like it tasted gross.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like nothing, tasted good.
Speaker 2:But no, the 48-hour one, and then, if I I like that, I'm gonna do uh 72 the following year, so every year. And then they got a six day, dude, they got a six day, and uh, and how does that?
Speaker 3:where you just as much as you? For six days and it's a it's a loop course uh, so you can do like 20 miles a day or something if you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why do 20 when you can do yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah.
Speaker 2:I know what you mean, I know. I'm just saying like why do 20? Spread?
Speaker 3:it out.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, that's my goal, man, and I'm going to stick to it. It took me two and a half years to get that power hike cadence. You know the Jason Rutherford cadence fast walk and Rutherford cadence, fast walk. I got it down and I'm gonna stick with that, because I tried to go speed and but you still don't use poles. Right, I don't use poles. Yeah, I hate poles that's wild.
Speaker 3:I hate poles. When I did McBeal's past last time I had to use poles.
Speaker 2:I don't it's. You rely on it, and too much, I mean because I spent a lot of time in the mountains and the one thing that it the one thing I hate about poles is you rely heavily on them, especially out there, and when you do, you start getting tennis elbow. Yeah, I don't know man, it just it's. I find it not helpful. A lot of people like you know this past weekend oh man, thank goodness for the polls. I'm like fuck, for real, I did yeah, you should.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like you should train without them and then use them for the race or whatever, or to at least learn how to use them I.
Speaker 2:I use them when it feels like, not during a race, but when I'm out in the wilderness doing all that, when I feel like, oh crap, I'm going to take a stumble like you're almost drunk. That's when I'll do it, because I'll catch myself every now and then. But then sometimes when I catch myself, I may either hit myself in the chin or in the nuts, and so it's like, oh Well, they're also a nice stand for when you have to go to the bathroom. Nah. I haven't thought about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can like prop them up, hold on to them, yeah, and put all your weight on them and you just squat down, okay, especially when you're like really tired and you can't. You know, yeah, you can't get down, yeah I gotcha, I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 3:You know, never mind, I won't go there, man, I won't go there yeah, it was because, ben well, the other day he was like he posted a picture and he's like, oh, I use this as my to wipe whatever. And it was pancake. It was a pancake and I was like that's a good idea it's a good idea until it goes through. That's true.
Speaker 1:It's better than.
Speaker 3:I've used.
Speaker 1:You get ants in your butt, and then I commented.
Speaker 3:I was like it's better than using rocks. I've used rocks before and it's better than using rocks. Or tumbleweed, yes. Or like I've ripped grass from the ground.
Speaker 2:Yep, done that, done the little patty cake with it. Oh God, man Melissa's just like oh my God, oh she's done it too.
Speaker 3:That's why she's laughing yeah.
Speaker 2:So when's your next run, or just a run? When are you running outside Long run?
Speaker 3:A long run, probably this weekend, probably, I don't know, this past weekend. I went to just Chamna, just cause it's cool there yeah nobody goes there.
Speaker 2:Really it's quiet watch your car though. Yeah, I parked it at the Candy and Chamna. Badger's getting bad now too what's that?
Speaker 3:what's that park next to Lulu's? Yep, yep, that's where I parked it okay I just ran to cham. That's the best way to go because, yeah, when I got to cham now, there was already some sketchy people yeah yeah, that's the best way to go. Man, that's like everywhere now dude, it's sadly sucks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why I just go from my house, and that's the ideal way yeah I have a longer run yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, and so, um and now. But well, back then, before the point, I had a different car ends up, I didn't care like yeah, yeah, they steal it, whatever.
Speaker 1:But now yeah, that truck is nice though yeah, and so yeah, it's cham.
Speaker 3:9've seen some sketchy cars, like Candy like just driving by there, yep, um, and so, yeah, I don't know so. I always have my phone with me anyways in case whatever happens, even running through Chamna, there's like encampments in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like people live here, yeah, yeah, and so, anyways, yeah, okay well, if anything, man, if you ever need a running buddy once or twice, you know in the near future, let me know.
Speaker 3:I'll be there, I'll be around, man, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:We need to get together and do a run or something You're right, but right now that baby's number one, number one, number one, number one. So you might not go on a long run this weekend.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we never know, we're kind of, we're just she's ready, living day by day. This is ready for this weekend, yeah she's been walking a lot and squatting a lot trying to get the baby out right what?
Speaker 2:um, where are you? Where are you going to have it? Kenwick Richland.
Speaker 1:Uh, so I, I go to a doctor in Walla Walla, okay, um, but we've kind of come to the conclusion that if, like, if I'm at home and he's at work and I have to drive myself to the hospital, I can. I'm just going to go to Cadillac, if you try yourself.
Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh, best believe, hope you have the baby this weekend. I'm praying for that.
Speaker 3:I'm hoping for it, yeah, so we're just really busy right now and we're just trying to just manage our schedule so that we can. I mean, we both want things we were training for. Even she's training for stuff right now, even being pregnant Um, it's crazy. Yeah, she's one of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:She's one of those, you see, and so we're. We're just trying to find a balance, and that's like with everything in life it's hard to find balance.
Speaker 2:Well, good man. Well, I'm glad things are working out, glad you're happy, glad you guys met. Seems like you guys are happy, you know, and I mean, I don't see you that much, so you are happy. But no man, I appreciate your time, dude, and if you need anything, let me know. You know, and, dude, don't shut me out, man.
Speaker 3:No, that's not, Don't shut me out, man. Yeah, that was never. Oh gosh, yeah the intention. I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I always have your back and I support you, man and uh, all the bullshit aside, just know, dude.
Speaker 3:I'm here for you, man, appreciate it. Yeah, I've just been really busy and then I mean I can tell you off the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, you're good. You're good, but did I leave anything? Do you want to add anything, man? I want to talk to Melissa. I'm trying not to look at Melissa right now because I'm curious of her background.
Speaker 3:There'll probably be a time, but I think the baby comes first. Yeah, she has her own stuff. Yeah, it'd be awesome too. Actually, I've been telling her about you since I met her, yeah, and how she needs to be here and talk because you, you know you bring a lot of good people in your podcast about you know from the community and all around, and everybody seems to have like a story. A story, yeah.
Speaker 2:Never met anybody who went to Idaho. The whole length of Idaho.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and she that's an interesting one Right, and she that's an interesting one right, and all they heard tell it when yeah, when that time comes. But, um, yeah, okay, yeah, I don't have anything else to add? I don't think so. Okay, just trying to stay busy. And till next time, jose? Yeah, till next time melissa yes till next time.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you being here, especially like you're just a little antsy and moving. I'm like that chair is so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:No, it's not that. It's really just that my hands get so like hot and tight and like swollen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my pants are kind of cool and so it like cools my hands off oh okay, I know I look like I'm like a turkey Right?
Speaker 2:No, if you weren't pregnant, probably. But hey, no, if you weren't pregnant, probably. Totally understand. But no, we have to get together.
Speaker 3:I know you got that baby, but if you guys just want to go on a run or an easy hike.
Speaker 2:I'm always available.
Speaker 1:She's going to Badger this weekend. This weekend, yeah, doing what? Oh, me and some old work friends are just going for a hike. Oh, okay, they they're. They're like trying to get like back into shape. I worked at h and r block with them, okay, and they're just trying to get back in shape and they've been walking and stuff and this weekend is the first weekend that they're going to try to hike badger you're going to have the baby, then you know, that's kind of what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh man, oh man, if I do this hike, maybe I'll go into labor.
Speaker 2:You gotcha, okay? All right, jose, don't be a stranger, all right? No, definitely will not be Until next time. Next time, all right, we'll see you next time.